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Bedrock of the Community
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I was looking at an auction of a 1914-D Lincoln Cent and thought that it may be counterfeit. My first thought was why is this coin raw? Your thoughts? https://www.ebay.com/itm/255400277452A close up of the mintmark of the coin in the listing shows this:  It looks different from an authentic MM here:  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Please show a full pic of the obverse and a close-up of the full date and MM.
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I don't know if it's counterfeit but can pretty much guarantee it has been cleaned.
Unslabbed rare coins are unslabbed for a reason! Cleaning, repairs, added mintmarks, damage, just to name a few. Good chance this coin has already been submitted a few times over the years.
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Maybe a 1914P with an added MM?
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Looks pretty darn good if it is a counterfeit, I say genuine, but cleaned. Don't quote me, but I believe there were 6 obverse dies? Looks close to this one here, with the lower portion of the mintmark slightly weaker.   Edit: now that I posted that, the appearance of the Mintmark in question does look a bit off. An overlay would help, IF I had time Edited by Ty2020b
03/04/2022 7:12 pm
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Well someone thought it was real enough to drop more than a grand on it.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Bedrock of the Community
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Agree 6 obverse dies, agree this appears genuine, but I'd still like to see a full obverse shot and a sharper close-up.
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Bedrock of the Community
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There where 6 obverse dies, but I find it hard to believe that more than one MM punch was used. The font of the MM looks wrong to me.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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As I said, sharp close-up of date and MM needed.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks good to me but then I'm no expert.
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I think it is genuine.
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Genuine, heavily cleaned.
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I say added MM  |
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Posted 03/04/2022 6:20 pm
