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1893-CC Morgan Dollar, I Assume This Is Fake

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 Posted 07/05/2022  2:57 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dar76124 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Just based on where I found this (bag of foreign coins) I assume it's fake. What are the tells? The weight is correct and it actually actually appears to be silver.

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 Posted 07/05/2022  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks genuine to me. It matches the VAM-4 die pair. The rim dent would probably detail it, but pretty nice find!
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 Posted 07/05/2022  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why assume that it is fake?

From what I see, I would say most likely genuine.

Just out of curiosity, can you tell us more of the backstory?
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 Posted 07/05/2022  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dar76124 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The backstory on this is that I purchased a bag of foreign coins at a thrift shop. If you have ever done this you know that thrift shop employees throw everything they don't recognize into the foreign bag. You occasionally find 2 and 3 cent pieces because they don't recognize them but you rarely find a silver dollar much less one from Carson City. This bag contained some obvious fake Chinese silver coins (underweight and magnetic). This was the only US coin in the bag. My first thought when I pulled it out was that it was a much better quality fake than the Chinese coins. Why assume it is fake, because you don't pull a CC silver dollar out of thrift shop bags every day or ever in my case. If further feedback continues to suggest genuine I will send it to NGC and see what they say.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback.
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 Posted 07/05/2022  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would you be willing to post a high resolution closeup of the mm? Thanks!
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 Posted 07/05/2022  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome, thank you for the backstory. Wonderful find! You'd be surprised how many rare coins are pulled from foreign coin bins, so it isn't unheard of. Let the morgan VAMers take a second glance at this coin, then send it off!
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 Posted 07/05/2022  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dar76124 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
best I could do for the MM





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 Posted 07/05/2022  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like the real deal to me
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 Posted 07/05/2022  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, the date position and mm look spot on for 1893-CC VAM-4.

EDIT: In terms of grade, it looks like F Details because of the rim knock. The underlying technical grade looks like F-12. Very nice find in a grab bag!
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 Posted 07/05/2022  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Super nice find !
Genuine from where I sit !
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 Posted 07/05/2022  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably a details coin as noted, but quite a find.
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 Posted 07/05/2022  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd guess that whomever makes up the bags for the thrift shop knowingly slipped it in to a bag with the intention to claim it later (or have an accomplice claim it later).

You got to it before they did!

Luck was on your side!
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 Posted 07/05/2022  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice find!
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 Posted 07/05/2022  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great find, congrats!
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 Posted 07/06/2022  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hokiefan_82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Quite a find, congrats!
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