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1960 Lincoln Cent, You Versus PCGS

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 Posted 08/10/2022  8:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TheColorofMoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
1960 Lincoln Cent

NOTE: Images of this coin are quite difficult to the extent that there is not even a TrueView image available. Nevertheless it should be entertaining.



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 Posted 08/10/2022  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that may be the first AT Lincoln I've seen. Interesting. Appears to have been a fairly high grade coin.
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 Posted 08/10/2022  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS PR Genuine Questionable Color- UNC Detail
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 Posted 08/10/2022  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wouldn't even hazard a guess. Assume it straight-graded, POS to me.
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 Posted 08/10/2022  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's on ebay with a $5K BIN price.
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 Posted 08/10/2022  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nfine- Really?

That's a bad sport, please refrain from doing that in the future.
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 Posted 08/10/2022  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, that comment made me check out eBay. I won't spoil anything that hasn't already been spoiled, but if PCGS can straight grade this and refuse to cross my 1838-O dime, then I just can't...
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 Posted 08/10/2022  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheColorofMoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that the cat is out of the bag about this coin being on eBay, I will point out that there is a second one also dated 1960. Both have the same type and colors of toning. They are twins, so-to-speak.
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 Posted 08/10/2022  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looking at that sellers coins, I am incredibly skeptical. They all have that same type of rainbow toning, looking way artificial. None of them have Trueviews that I can see either
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 Posted 08/11/2022  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe for a second that this isn't AT.
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 Posted 08/11/2022  05:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheColorofMoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NumismaticsFTW

Here are links to both coins on eBay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/193231147919
https://www.ebay.com/itm/193231148027

If you look through this eBay seller's other items, there is - for example - a 1964-D quarter with really dark obverse toning. I have seen this exact kind of toning on different coins separated by years of time and different locations\people involved - a fresh-to-market Victoria shilling, Seated half dollar, and a Peace dollar. So, at least for that coin's (1964-D quarter) color, in my experience it is legit. But that is only for that single item. However, that $4,900 ask price is absurd.

The seller is involved in "antique" and "vintage" silver\gold bars. That market is murky because valuation is difficult. I've never figured out how the premiums are calculated other than throw a big number on to it, and if somebody comes along and bites on it, then great.
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 Posted 08/11/2022  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
copper does some crazy things when exposed to any elements over years. the toning progression matches the correct sequence of yellow, blue, green, purple. in this case moving left to right. I think the toning is natural.
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No appeal to me whatsoever.
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 Posted 08/11/2022  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd stay six feet away from this coin!
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 Posted 08/12/2022  12:37 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like laser toning.
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 Posted 08/12/2022  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JTCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like AT to me....
A look at the seller's account shows mostly AT slabbed coins for absurd prices.....
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