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Coins Dealers With Cheap Low Quality Old Coins In London

 
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 Posted 09/24/2022  09:30 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MewTwo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
When I was growing up in New Zealand (20+ years ago), I enjoyed taking a trip in to the city to go around the coin dealers and dig through their 25c bins. My favorite finds were always the pre-1800 UK ones, especially if the date was still legible, but often they were so badly worn that you could only tell it's rough age by which king was on it. They still all went in my collection though.
And I'd go though their albums of coins in the cardboard holders grabbing the occasional one for a few dollars (or even $10 as I got a bit older).

When I moved to London 10 years ago, I thought I'd see a lot of coin dealers, and UK coins of that age might be more common than they were in New Zealand. But any dealer I've randomly stumbled on here and gone into, seems a little fancy for my sort. Not the type of place with a 25c bin. I'm sure inflation has hit, and over the years a 25c bin is now at least $1 bin (or 1 here in London!), but do they even exist over here?

I was considering getting my son and nephews a few coins to spark their interest. Just looking for a some copper coins pre-1800, for a few pounds each.
I've looked on eBay and put a some bids on a few that started at 1, but have been outbid every time so far. I happy to pay a little more and win a few bids if that's what it takes. I only need a few, but buying them all individually from different dealers, having to adding on postage to each cheap coin, brings the price up quite a bit more.

But I also wouldn't mind a trip into a dealer just to look around and see what sort of things are available if someone could recommend me a dealer in London who stocks those sort of low quality old coins in the 1-5 range.

Thanks!
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 Posted 09/24/2022  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 09/24/2022  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kipster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello MewTwo,

Sadly you might be hard pushed to find a dealer in London that has these sorts of coins these days. Soaring rents and overheads have almost pushed them out of existence, but there may be a few tucked away somewhere.

There's a really nice little shop directly opposite the British Museum called Coincraft.

https://coincraft.com

I'm sure some of the regulars on here know about them. I was in there yesterday on a trip to the smoke to make a collection from someone, and they had some nice pieces in there. Pricewise, about right, quality wise, very good. I've bought from them online before and their staff were very interested in helping out. Trouble is, it's a small shop and being opposite the Museum, it gets a bit busy with tourists.

Just outside London in Hemel Hempstead, there's a fella called Roy who runs a shop called Libritz Stamps. It's like stepping back in time walking into his shop, it's fantastic. He's been there in the same spot for 50 year. He may have some coins that could be of interest.

Failing that, ebay would undoubtedly be the best option

Good luck with your endeavour
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 Posted 09/24/2022  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My experience was the same as the OP's, but that more than 30 years ago.
'Cheapie cherry picking ! around local dealers, and at coin shows in Sydney. That was when I was feeding a mortgage.
Can't do that any more. Those sorts of cheap bargains are almost non existent these days.

All collectors, have a cherry picking tendency; we all try to look for best value for money.

House long since paid off.
My reaction to this situation was to expand my collecting interests to across the whole spectrum of numismatics, so that bargains would continue to be relatively easy to find, but in much higher price brackets,
and thus, I have shifted a long way up through the price brackets, and my annual numismatic budget is much larger.
But I still have a fierce tendency to search for best value for money, across the whole range of coin conditions.

And I have formed life long numismatic friendships.

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 Posted 09/26/2022  05:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To be honest Mew, the only place I've seen that sort of thing is either markets or antique/junk shops. As others have said, the overheads of running a coin dealership probably mean any junk coins might as well go to melt for metal value.

Whereas I've been in 'antique cellar' places and seen bowls of old money of the sort that still circulated when I were a lad. Sounds like that might be more that sort of place you're after? Maybe check out somewhere like Bermondsey .. or car boot fairs, though it's a bit late in the season for those?
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 Posted 09/26/2022  05:54 am  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know of any places like that in London. There's an antiques centre called the Malt House Arcade in Hythe in Kent which is open on Fridays and Saturdays. There's a coin dealer called Colin who has a big box of miscellaneous coins for 25p each. It's fun to sort through and he occasionally 'seeds' it with things like George V silver threepences and Churchill crowns. Might be worth a trip down as not all that far from London - straight down the M20 or train to Folkestone then a short bus ride.
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 Posted 09/26/2022  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@MewTwo - I too became a collector only a few years ago and have read about the bargain barrels at coin dealers that the long time collectors would spend fun filled hours rummaging through. Alas, most coin dealers and their bargain barrels had disappeared long before I started collecting with the few remaining dealers dealing mostly in high end coins with nary a barrel in site. I'm in Brisbane, Australia but I suspect it's a similar story in the UK.
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 Posted 09/26/2022  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
you can buy pre-decimal bulk coppers on UK ebay - I kg of mixed monarchs for 10 pounds...or best offer....that's about 10p each....is that the right conversion?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/37426411...9SR5zNgL_vYA

edit: but I seriously doubt there will be pre 1800's amongst them
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 Posted 09/27/2022  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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you can buy pre-decimal bulk coppers on UK ebay - I kg of mixed monarchs for 10 pounds...or best offer....that's about 10p each....is that the right conversion?

Or for almost half price you could try a local scrap metal yard. Scrap copper is currently 5.7 per kg and they do get bulk coppers from time to time.
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 Posted 09/27/2022  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Scrap copper is currently 5.7 per kg and they do get bulk coppers from time to time.

That's thinking outside the box.....nice.
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Is the small weekly coin market in the parking lot near Charing Cross station still active? I havent been to London for a long time but I remember there used to be all kinds of numismarics there at reasonable prices. (But that was back in 2008-2010)
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 Posted 10/30/2022  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is the small weekly coin market in the parking lot near Charing Cross station still active? I havent been to London for a long time but I remember there used to be all kinds of numismarics there at reasonable prices. (But that was back in 2008-2010)

As far as I know, yes. They sell both coins and stamps. Not much chance of a bargain, but some of the dealers have a decent selection.
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 Posted 10/30/2022  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One of my local dealers has a cheap coin bin, but the coins in it are ultra cheapo. 20c each but you can only buy 1 cent American modern coins, 1ps, old 1 and 2 cent NZ and Aus and 1 cent and 1 sen Malaysia singapore etc. Plus all the aluminium 10 centavos of spain and 1 penni of Finland etc.

I would like to see decent coins like quarters and old 50ps in a dollar or 50 cent bins.
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