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This was a recent auction purchase. I believe it's a SBA dollar with the reverse struck through a dime (probably a minted dime rather than a blank planchet because of the visible reeding). I can't see any evidence of a brockage. Since the ghost image of the eagle is pretty visible, and the size of the indented area is somewhat larger than a dime, I'm wondering if this was a second or third strike through a die cap (with the dime stuck to the reverse die), resulting in thinning of the dime planchet. I'm not sure how this should be described. I don't think it's an indent error because it doesn't appear to be struck through a blank planchet. Would it be a considered a SBA reverse struck through a dime, or a late stage capped die from a struck dime?  
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Almost appears like a mint employee assisted error to me... 
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A pretty neat piece but I would have to agree, there may be some funny business going on at the mint.
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Fantastic error! It is possible that it could happen with a dime stuck in a hopper or trapped somewhere else in the process, but it could be another "Mint Fiction" intentionally struck by a dishonest mint employee. Either way, you have a great coin that I wish I had in my collection! I'm jealous in the extreme! 
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It's certainly possible that it's mint employee-assisted, but I lean towards this being an unintentional error. It's conceivable how this might happen just by chance, and I think employee mischief usually results in more bizarre errors than this.
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An interesting example! 
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Quote: I lean towards this being an unintentional error. I disagree. We'll never know for sure' but things like this just don't routinely happen on their own. I suspect funny business, but that's just my opinion. 
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I guess we'll never know whether it was intentional or not. But back to the original question. Was this struck through a dime on the first strike, or did the dime stick to the reverse die and cause a strike through a later stage, partially capped die? The only similar errors I could find were labeled by PCGS as struck through a dime planchet or a round object. Probably doesn't really matter, but I was wondering how it would be categorized. https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/197.../1154-6187.s https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/und...ption-071515
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Nice error. You make a good point about the reeding be present around the struck through. IMHO, it looks like a 1979 SBA 1$ struck through a dime. It would be neat to see the mated die cap. What a great presentation they would make together.
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I did a search for a SBA struck on a dime planchet to see if I could find the mated piece, but no luck. Since it would be thinner and larger than a normal dime, it seems unlikely that it would have left the mint. I'm thinking about getting this slabbed. Any opinion on whether I should request the reverse be on the front side of the slab?
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I wanted to update this thread and express my frustration with NGC. I had this struck through error attributed at NGC, and they called it struck through a one cent planchet. Although the diameter of the struck through area is slightly larger than either a cent or dime, I suspect that's because the object thinned and spread when the SBA was struck. It makes no sense that this could be struck through a one cent planchet because a Lincoln Cent has no reeding, and even if it did, a blank planchet would also have no reeding. So I called NGC and explained why this should be labeled as struck through a minted dime, and at first they responded that the label was correct. Then I emailed them and asked how a one cent planchet could leave Reeding Marks on the SBA, and they asked me to send the coin back for re-evaluation. Well, I sent it back to them as instructed, and they returned it a few days later without any changes. Am I wrong to think that the error attribution is incorrect? It really doesn't make a big difference in the value of the coin, but I'd sort of like the label to correctly describe the error. 
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Very nice error coin! Too bad that NGC labeled it incorrectly.
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Error coin has an error label.  At least it denotes an error if not the error. You tried. At this point I would probably have let it go (the mistake, not the coin).
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Nice coin and photos! I agree the label is wrong but I doubt it affects the value.
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