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How To Value Toning On Coins

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 Posted 12/07/2022  12:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Shtiv to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
My problem is shopping for deals on eBay and other places, and it is consuming my life. What I don't understand is how some toned seem to fetch a huge price while others do not. When it comes to toning, what do you look for? What is the process of determining values?
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 Posted 12/07/2022  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Toning is a very subjective factor when it comes to coins. There's the sometimes heated conversation over 'natural' vs. 'artificial' toning. There are some collectors who want no part of toning, while there are others who will opt for a toned example over one that isn't. It really comes down to what catches your eye and what you find compelling and attractive. If you approach the issue simply from the perspective of monetary value/reward, then it's apparent that some forms of toning on some coins will boost value a bit more than pieces with no toning. That's the marketplace--the marketplace made up of a variety of people with all their individual preferences.
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 Posted 12/07/2022  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is no simple answer to your question as there are many variables to determine toning value. Here is a good website to learn about Morgan toners: http://www.jhonecash.com/coins/tonedmorgans.asp
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 Posted 12/07/2022  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Check CarrsCoins's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add CarrsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
proceed with caution.

toned coins can sell for many times the book price, after all they are stunning and beautiful. artificial toning is frequently used to cover cleaning or scratches on coins or to "enhance" the value. its really easy to get burned on toning if you dont know what to look for. toning also presents a storage issue. if your storage environment isn't stable you can end up with toned coins that change color. over a long enough time frame the chemical reactions on the surfaces of all those colorful toned coins turn to an unattractive dull black.
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 Posted 12/07/2022  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I get the impression from your posts that you're looking for ways to make a fast buck, and want others to tell you how. If that's your goal, it's going to take a lot of knowledge, experience, time and luck. In this case, someone could be bidding on a coin for the toning while someone else is bidding on it for a little-known variety, and you'll never know what drove up the price. There's no magic formula.
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There is no way to put a value on toning . If your buying one it all depends on how much you love it to tell how much you'll pay for it .
If your selling a toner you can virtually put any price on it. There are no set prices in this area of the hobby . Just to advise I am talking about natural toning , not artificial toning .
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That's what I thought, it's subjective. These are things I think about when I see items selling at a premium, and I look to make wise investments. In terms of buying coins, I look for those that have character and that catch my eye. I am not looking to follow a trend or what others like, but I do like to educate myself so that I will know the value of a coin before I purchase it. Thank you for your great responses on here!
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 Posted 12/07/2022  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo Boguss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do an eBay search on "monster rainbow toning". Ugly monstrosities. That "toning" was inflicted on these coins.
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Example of monster toned coins on e-Bay :


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I've seen monster toned, absolutely offensive and artificial imo. What about this coin, why the color, it's it because it was cleaned and subject to water or other contaminate?
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 Posted 12/07/2022  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo Boguss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Eye appeal counts for a lot. That '86 Morgan would be in my junk silver stack.
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 Posted 12/07/2022  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Want to see some very cool toning? Suggest checking this topic here on the forum, nearly 300 pages and growing...
http://goccf.com/t/53247
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jjn1944 great share!
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Is toning an indicator of whether a coin is real? While I enjoy buying coins from eBay because of the variety, I have anxiety when I order expensive coins, despite eBay's satisfaction guarantee.
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Some love nice toning, some don't care for it.

That makes any value ascribed to toning, either up or down, very subjective to personal opinion.

The seller won't have much control over any influence that toning may have, for ascribing extra value to a coin.

The buyer is in control.

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When I see 'monster toned' coins I am always suspicious. My immediate thought is 'artificial'.
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When you buy raw coins on eBay, be sure you have full return privileges. But return privileges aren't worth much if you don't really know how to evaluate the coin when it arrives.
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