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194x-S Roosevelt Dime Mint Error - Double Clipped Planchet - Help With Date Please

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 Posted 03/25/2023  12:35 am Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I don't look at dimes very often and am not familiar with how the various digits look. This coin came in a dealer slip labeled 1948-S, but am unable to verify that. Any help settling whether this is 1948 or 1949 would be appreciated.

194X-S Roosevelt dime mint error - double clipped planchet





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 Posted 03/25/2023  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Reno911 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to say it's a 1949-S
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 Posted 03/25/2023  02:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 03/25/2023  02:37 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say 1948-S because of the shape and distance of the top loop from the 4.

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 Posted 03/25/2023  03:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a 9 to me.
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 Posted 03/25/2023  05:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't offer an opinion.

What's going on with the reverse rim at K9?
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 Posted 03/25/2023  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfamind to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Zurie has me convinced it's a 1948-S, despite my eyes initially telling me otherwise.
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 Posted 03/25/2023  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Top loop seems too large for an 8. I'll go for 1949.
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 Posted 03/25/2023  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like Zurie's thought process.
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 Posted 03/25/2023  10:18 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all! Yes that's Blakesley Effect on the reverse, some of the strongest I've seen.

But it's Zurie's post that is what I was most looking for, an analysis of the digits. These error coins with distorted devices can look like all kinds of things to the eye, but what actually is the relationship of the digits to each other. So from what I am seeing, on the posted coin the digits appear to be separating further away from each other left to right. The 1 and 9 still seem pretty close as in the comparative photos, but the 9 and 4 are getting further apart, and by the time you get to the 4 and final digit they are quite a ways distant. Note that on the crossbar of the 4 in the comparative photos the final digit is right next to it, while on the posted coin it is nowhere close at all. That makes me a little leery of using distance for making a final call. But, what about the height of the final digit. On the comparative photos the 8 is higher than the 9, and that seems to match the posted coin better and is further from the clip so probably more reliable.

Based on Zurie's post, I agree that the digit is an 8, but for a slightly different reason. Anyone else agree/disagree? Don't think this is settled yet, but right now arrows point to an 8.

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 Posted 03/25/2023  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO the "clips" are NOT original, i.e., it did not occur at the Mint.
I think it an "after Mint" job.

The clips do not look real to me, and the Blakesley effect features look even less real.
Describe it as if there were no picture.
Picture it as if there were no description.
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 Posted 03/25/2023  10:35 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm, are we looking at the same coin?
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 Posted 03/25/2023  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tunnioc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is there any "Smith Effect" ?
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 Posted 03/25/2023  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm reconsidering my initial response. It does appear more likely an "8" to me now. I realize, at this point, my opinion is of little use as it may change again in the future :)
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Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr


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