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1882 Indian Cent - What Causes This Color

 
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 Posted 05/28/2023  4:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is not my coin, but occasionally I see coins with this color. Looks like they're made out of chocolate, almost, or painted with brown paint. What is this? I've run across some coins that were otherwise pretty nice, but the color was way too "off" for me to consider them.

Curious as to comments on this.

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 Posted 05/28/2023  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfamind to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
May have been cleaned some time ago.
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 Posted 05/28/2023  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cleaned with what - gasoline? Just looks really wrong to me.
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 Posted 05/28/2023  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Who knows what color lurks in the heart of cents? The copper knows. Muuuhahahahahahah.


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 Posted 05/29/2023  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly lacquered at some point.
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 Posted 05/29/2023  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinEnthusiast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As everyone else has said, it just looks off.
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 Posted 05/29/2023  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU details (re-colored and/or lacquered)
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 Posted 05/29/2023  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting - never considered lacquer. But, like I said, the coin looks like it's been painted with something. It's amazing what people have done to make a coin look "better" and completely wrecked them.
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 Posted 05/29/2023  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pine tree coin and jewelry are as honest as the day is long. Used to yak with them a lot. They get a weird color to their coins because they use a blue background. They've muted their blue a little bit, used to be really orange looking Indians.
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 Posted 05/29/2023  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you referring to the rust color outside of the wreath on reverse mostly?

Other than that weird rust coloring, this coin looks like a Verdi-Care result.

It has that lacquer look.
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 Posted 05/29/2023  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin's color is the result of a cleaning product such as blue ribbon or veridicare not being removed entirely. Makes the coin look greasy, and you can clearly see the green material is thoroughly soaked.
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 Posted 05/29/2023  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How is someone supposed to remove verdi-care after use?

I read on our forum it will always have that lacquer look.

Is it recommended to actually use a microfiber towel and wipe, because I don't like doing that.

I remember someone saying acetone after Verdi-care isn't good either.

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 Posted 05/30/2023  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not too sure about this coin but one of the reasons I love old copper, is it can take on many colors from light orange to dark chocolate. Time and environment the coin is/was in can determine the color of the copper.
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 Posted 05/31/2023  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've started experimenting with Verdi-care, NumismaticsFTW, and I'm not getting this result at all. I'm starting to believe the lacquer theory. I wouldn't buy a coin that looked like this - just wondering how this happens. Not the first one I've seen like this, but this is one of the worst.
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 Posted 05/31/2023  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo Boguss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I saw this product for sale recently - Nic-A-Tone Cent Toner, and wondered why anyone would want such a thing. Evidently to cover something up. Perhaps this or a similar product was used on that IHC.
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 Posted 06/01/2023  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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why anyone would want such a thing


you got it... probably to cover up a cleaning to sell to an unsuspecting newbie
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