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 Posted 07/24/2023  5:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MizzJesi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I have seen "spooned coin" in many descriptions of PMD, but let get real here folks, even those of us who are interested in coins don't always know the term, or how to create one.

So when you reply to someone's quarry, with "spooned coin" do you honestly believe that so many people in America have the time and knowledge to create that many spooned coins? And if not, would you please stop calling it that and just call it PMD.

I know personally, I want specific answers, and PMD is its own answer. Calling them spooned, Makes it seem that you are generalizing because you have no better reply. Or that you are showing off your knowledge of coin lingo. I mean there is no way that they are all spooned coins.

Does anyone else feel this way? Or am I just too literal?
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 Posted 07/24/2023  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obviously you don't know what a spooned coin is
Do some research
The term that is overused is Dryer Coin
Many of the Dryer Coins we see here are actually spooned coins and it seems as if the two terms are interchangeable
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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 Posted 07/24/2023  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO it's far more likely such coins are made by rolling in dryers than by somone tapping them with a spoon
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 Posted 07/24/2023  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, if a quarter has smooth edges and the rim is much fatter than normal, I'm GOING to call it a 'spooned' coin or possibly a 'dryer' coin.
I'm old enough to know what a spooned coin is and have annoyed my mother enough to know what they look like. (Even made a small ring or 2)
On a side note, in my house, we have freedom of speech and I'll express that when and where I am able.
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 Posted 07/24/2023  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add igwt79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like Dearborn's answer.

I found these articles interesting MizzJesi:

https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/42...ooned-coins/

https://www.error-ref.com/dryer-coins/
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 Posted 07/24/2023  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MizzJesi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I am aware of what spooning on a coin is. Are you? The point of spooning is to make a ring or if the coin. Edge damage by a dryer is very different if you ask me. Maybe I just see it better *shrug*

I also don't just say things to sound like I know.
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 Posted 07/24/2023  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Edge damage by a dryer is very different if you ask me. Maybe I just see it better *shrug*


No, they're really not. The exact same thing happens in the fin of a commercial dryer that happens to a spooned coin. Just takes a whole lot less time.

What cracks me up on FB all the time is the dryer dimes and pennies that people say are spooned.
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 Posted 07/24/2023  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shouldn't a Dryer Coin have more damage to the devices than a spooned coin that is being hit only on the rim?
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I am aware of what spooning on a coin is. Are you?


Do you challenge us on our knowledge? Do you think you know better? Be welcome to challenge, but you must be point, to argue logic with facts.

I will be here and answer to your challenge if it is logic and not some kind of utopias. Those thinking are good if are backup by science. On what you say I do not see science.
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Shouldn't a Dryer Coin have more damage to the devices than a spooned coin that is being hit only on the rim?


Not when it's stuck in the fin. It can't tumble, only the edge gets banged around.

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 Posted 07/24/2023  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Yes, I am aware of what spooning on a coin is. Are you? The point of spooning is to make a ring or if[sic] the coin. Edge damage by a dryer is very different if you ask me. Maybe I just see it better *shrug*

I'm guessing that you CHOSE to ignore my statement up above - possibly because you KNOW I'm correct.


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I also don't just say things to sound like I know.


Umm, Beg to differ on that incorrect statement. - you are telling Us that we need to conform to your way of thinking here - Ain't gonna happen with me.
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 Posted 07/24/2023  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HGK3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with Captain Mandrake and Mike Diamond on this one.

Definition of a Dryer Coin from error-ref.com:

Dryer Coins
Definition -This term is used in reference to abused coins that have tumbled around inside of an industrial dryer. The coins tend to get trapped in between the inner and outer tubs of these dyers and then are subject to repeated cycles of being battered against the hard surface in the heated chamber. The obverse and reverse designs have been pummeled into mush. Some metal has been relocated from the edge and design rim onto the field and peripheral letters in the form of a thin apron. The apron forms a complete ring that lies loosely on each face. For more information and examples of Dryer Coins, please see this thread: http://goccf.com/t/143863

The damage to the devices and the rolled over metal moving from the rim to the fields are the signs the differentiate Dryer Coins from spooned coins and coins that have been squeezed horizontally through other mechanical means.

I also vote with the OP on the premise that not many coins are actually spooned nowadays. It always strikes me as being akin to whittling in that it's something everyone knows how to do, but no one has the time or patience for any longer.
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Having actually pulled many Dryer Coins out of commercial washers and dryers as a kid/teen, I can say that the face of a Dryer Coin may or may not have sever wear on it. I suspect this is due to how much dirt/sand/whatever was in between the inner and outer tubs as they were spinning around.

Since we have not observed one being made, the best I can assume is coins sit inside the bottom of the outer tub. As the inner tub spins, socks (commonly also found in between the tube) or some other small item in the void will catch the coins, carry them up the side of the tub, and the coins then drop, land on their rims, and the rim starts to flatten out.

The amount of dirt/sand/whatever the coin is tumbled with may or may not mar the surface of the coin greatly. See the link for Dryer Coin.

As to spooning coins, do we really think there are that many people out there doing it? Well...yes. Math and numbers are weird things.

How many coins hit by a hammer are out there? Thankfully a lot of people have enough common sense to realize that is what they have or we would see a lot more posted! How many vise coins do we see? How many coins people use large nippers on? People, for no reason at all it seems, just beat up coins.

No doubt people see how to make a ring from a coin with online videos etc., start the process, find out it's a lot more work than they are willing to put into it, and stop.

However, how many people have actually torn apart a front loading washing machine (or dryer) NOWADAYS that has an inner and outer metal tubs (most are plastic for household machines)? This would greatly limit the amount of Dryer Coins being made/found.

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 Posted 07/24/2023  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Khromtau to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't separate the drums, but I scrapped a residential top load washer recently with a metal outer drum, so I would assume that there are some side loading washers or dryers with outer metal drums. Most dryers I have seen only have one drum, not an inner and outer.
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 Posted 07/24/2023  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HGK3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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However, how many people have actually torn apart a front loading washing machine (or dryer) NOWADAYS that has an inner and outer metal tubs (most are plastic for household machines)? This would greatly limit the amount of Dryer Coins being made/found


I've always assumed Dryer Coins come from commercial dryers, not residential ones. First, just the racket made by a coin in a dryer is enough to make you stop it and retrieve the coin, but you can't do this in a commercial dryer.

I am confident the effects on the coin we see take more than one cycle to achieve, which again argues for a long term presence in the dryer and it's commercial status and commercial dryers run far more loads than the average residential dryer which means they would generate more Dryer Coins.
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 Posted 07/25/2023  02:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought this over more than once.

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Calling them spooned, Makes it seem that you are generalizing because you have no better reply.
Are you suggesting I should say something else other than the evidence presented?

To be spooned (no ring intended) is more than being as you and some try to described. One can achieve similar results without a spoon.

Note: Dryer Coins fall under there own category so I try not to mix the two. Thanks, Doug.


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I know personally, I want specific answers, and PMD is its own answer.
I tend to call them altered after strike. Thanks, Doug.
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