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 Posted 10/31/2010  10:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Foolsgold to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
When will a "modern" coin become a "classic" coin? Does it go by age or the design being retired? Personally I would consider the LWC to be a classic coin but most people label it modern. What is your opinion on this?
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 Posted 11/01/2010  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has nothing to do
with age. It's perception.

When I was young classics could be just a few years old and anything before WW II was almost ancient. Now days some people consider the exact same coins to be moderns. I believe historically people have tended to only collect coins from before they began collecting or from before their own birth. This meant perhaps about twenty years old on average though of course this varied from collector to collector and over time.

Now days a 45 year old coin is still considered modern. This is changing rapidly though as a new generation of collectors is coming who see these coins as old or classic.

1965 is a very good date to make a dividing line since so many things and so much behavior changed then. Later coins are called "moderns" now but the terminology will evolve over time. More importantly though is that perception will change. The idea that moderns are junk will simply fade away over time.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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 Posted 11/01/2010  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't know there was such a thing in the Coin World.in 40 years of collecting and learning I have never heard the Fraze pertain to coins. did I miss something?.
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 Posted 11/01/2010  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
for most series the change from silver to clad is the primary distinction, but in the nickel searchers section we generally use 1960 as the cutoff date since there were no low mintage issues after 1959. For cents a collector might consider 1959, the year when the memorial design was introduced.
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Hard to think of a 101 year old coin as modern. LMC? ok. 1909 LWC? No way.

If you are thinking about CCF... I can understand the division. It seems to even posts out. I've noticed that no one moves a LWC post out of Classic section you just won't find many.

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I think if either side of the coin is still on coinage you can find in your pocket, its modern. No matter what the other side looks like. As long as there is a Lincoln Cent, they will be considered Modern to me, any cent before Lincoln is classic because its a classic design, nothing classic about Lincoln on a one cent coin no matter what the other side looks like, its still a Lincoln Cent. Same with Nickels, the Buffalo is classic, the Jefferson is modern no matter if the reverse ever changes or not, it will always be a modern design, doesn't even matter what profile they use of Jefferson, if he's on the coin its a Jefferson nickel
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I've noticed that no one moves a LWC post out of Classic section you just won't find many.
Point them out and I will move them!

The LWC is in that gray area because of its age, but the image of Lincoln is pretty much the same, so they all (LWC/LMC/LCC/LSC) get stuck together.

Everything is split on whether or not the named series is still currently minted (Lincoln, Jefferson, Roosevelt, Washington, and Kennedy). There are exceptions, like the Franklin half dollars (which would still be minted had it not been for the Kennedy assassination) or Eisenhower and Anthony Dollars.

There is an argument to be made for the Mercury dime being modern (because of its replacement by the Roosevelt dime), but the fact is that all classics depict Liberty or some abstract, whereas the moderns are all effigies of real people.
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Like lots of other people have already said, its
up to the collector him/herself. I consider all lincoln cents before 1941 to
be classic since I hardly ever find them roll searching.
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I think the forum has it where if the design was made after 1900 then its Modern but not 100% sure on that. that would put (as per the forum) all Liberty head dimes in classic, and Mercury head dimes in modern
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 Posted 11/02/2010  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add timsumrall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I ain't snitching :)
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I remember seeing somewhere that the dividing line for the LWC was 1930 and earlier (I think it has something to do with value).
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