1895-O Morgan (Pic Update)

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Originally posted by Bryan1315

if you are going to do the crossover game, go with ANACS because NGC is stricter than a catholic nun teaching Sunday school. ANACS may give it a nice little upgrade and then maybe you can send it to PCGS and once they see ANACS gave it a certain grade it may help persuade their judgment. I have had great success in crossing over from ANACS to NGC but have had absolutely no luck with submitting raw to them because I always come out feeling like I was....well it didn't feel good just let me tell ya that. That is why the last three coins I submitted to NGC are now cracked out of their pretty NGC holders and in a 2x2 flip awaiting to be shipped to PCGS to see if I have better luck with them

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So, are you saying to submit it to ANACS in the PCGS slab and see if they upgrade it?

I think I might try this first (PCGS to ANACS) because I know I'm going to have a really tough time making myself break open that PCGS slab.

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Originally posted by Morgan Fred

In terms of physical opening of a slab (NOT talking about emotional trauma here ), I've gone to a Dremel with an itty-bitty rotary saw and away from the hack saw, screwdriver, and pliers routes . Saves the doubt about the slab splintering and gouging the coin... which itself would give me a LOT of emotional (and financial) trauma. Wally World has an inexpensive Dremel which does the job very nicely for about 20 bucks.

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I was speaking of emotionally only not phyical. I have a dremel tool but if I'm sending it to ANACS I want to leave it slabbed,correct?

Ummmmmmmm....! Less luster, more "chatter"? A tiny bit stronger strike (obverse) but, breast feathers are weaker. There's something going on with her nose also and what's on her top lip? Since I guessed MS on the other one, I'll go a strong AU on this one.

(yes, I see your "edit")

Terry, are all those scratches on the obverse from the encapsulation or are they on the coin itself? Presuming the scratches are on the holder, then yes, as Bryan says, it's definitely a stronger strike (can't say I've heard the term, "righteous strike" before, but I like it!). However, the slight rim ding at 6 o'clock on the obverse and the rather strong scratch on the Eagle's breast would bring it down somewhat. Even so, it could go either way: circulated or Mint State. Without the scratches on the obverse, I'd go with low MS, maybe -60 or -61 OR AU-50, maybe -55. If the scratches are on the coin and not the slab, I'd be inclined to call it cleaned except if it's in an NGC slab, it's not cleaned.

So, to answer your question, if scratches are on the slab, I'd go with a "higher" than the first Morgan. If on the coin, lower.

Definitely a toughie!

Fred

Yeah, Terry, . I downloaded the image and blew it up a little. While it pixelated on enlargement, it also gave me the impression the scratches were on the coin rather than the slab since I didn't see any scratches on the holder itself. Still, despite that, NGC gave it an AU-53. I can live with that for this Morgan. And I completely that overall, your Morgan is the better of the two. Time to crack it out!

Fred

PS - I'm working on complete sentences using smilies only .

Also, I contacted ANACS today to ask about submitting a cross over coin.The form I need to fill out asks what I feel the minimum is the coin should grade.If I fill in that area and lets say I put AU50,they will grade the coin and if they grade it AU50 or above,they will crack the coin from the PCGS holder and put it in the ANACS holder with the new grade.If they agree with the original PCGS XF45 or a lesser grade,they will return the coin to me in the PCGS slab,unopened. If I do not list a minimum grade they will crack the coin from the PCGS holder and give it the grade they decide upon,no matter what it is.
They also said when they receive a graded coin,they put tape over the grade before its submitted to their graders.