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Please give me your input on the grade of this 1895-O Morgan,yes its already graded,but I would like your opinions anyway.Please keep in mind this is a New Orleans strike.




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 Posted 08/28/2006  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lousy strike, but I'm guessing it's AU anyways. Let's call it 55.
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 Posted 08/28/2006  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let's see if I can put into action what I've learned so far. New Orleans is well known for it's weak strikes and that alone does not necessarily downgrade this coin. This coin has a full strike. This coin appears to have a strong mint luster and not a significant amount of chatter. The details appear reasonable with the exception of the breast and tail feathers are rather weak perhaps wear. The rim is clear without marks or dings. I would say MS64 except for the gouge on the reverse (top right) and perhaps the mark under the E on the Obverse, therefore I am reducing the grade to MS63. I know that you Morgan experts will have much to say. Thanks!
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 Posted 08/28/2006  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fengk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm nowhere near sufficient with my grading skills, but I'm going to say AU-58.
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 Posted 08/28/2006  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add B12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep in mind that the strike is a very important part of the grade and this coin does have a lousy strike as SuperDave mentioned so I'd have to say AU to.
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I will say MS60
It is a very purrty coin
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 Posted 08/28/2006  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Part of my reasoning is, if the strike were truly all of the problem, I think there'd be even less detail in the wreath and the ear than there is. Of course, my opinion could (and likely would) change with the coin in-hand to look at the cap and cheek.
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 Posted 08/28/2006  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'ma say in the EF range
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OK TLS5933, we see it was already graded by PCGS, so let us know what they graded it.......please oh ple ASE
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Originally posted by Tpatna

OK TLS5933, we see it was already graded by PCGS, so let us know what they graded it.......please oh please



Tim, I really need to get MorganFreds opinion before I reveal the grade.. This one could be an expensive proposition for me..
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 Posted 08/28/2006  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, final answer with serious consideration - MS62
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OK, final answer with serious consideration - MS62



STOP THAT! you'll hurt your head.
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Haven't looked at the other responses yet. The images are a little bright, but I'd guess it to be MS-62 since the marks on the obverse field in front of Liberty's nose, on her chin, and possibly on her forehead, and on the reverse above the Eagle's head would tend to keep it low. If it were any other mint than a New Orleans Morgan, I'd label it circulated due to the flatness of Liberty's hair and of the Eagle's breast, but O-Morgans can be deceiving and this one does not appear to have any circulation marks; the existing marks appear to be bag marks. However, knowing PCGS, they may have gone to great effort to keep it out of the Mint State levels, especially on less common Morgans, so may have labeled it an AU-55 to -58. I'm not sure PCGS is giving credit for New Orleans' weak strike Morgans these days. Other than trying to second-guess PCGS, I'd say it's a nice slider Morgan or better no matter what PCGS states.

Fred

Now onward to see what the others have guessed.
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 Posted 08/29/2006  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
TLS, I'm flattered you want my opinion, but it's not worth any more than the others' opinions. It's also, as we all know, very difficult to judge a coin from an image despite what many sellers on ebay claim ("See the pictures of this high-grade coin and grade it yourself.") and also given that it's a New Orleans Morgan which are priving to give me a headache (Rick has an O-Morgan which is a killer!). Fortunately, this is just for fun.

I'm gonna and stick with my slider guess: high AU or moderately low Mint State. Again, I'm trying to second-guess PCGS, not a good idea with them. Two or three years ago, it might have come back from them as MS-63 or maybe MS-64 making it a very valuable coin indeed, but if it was graded recently, no way is it gonna go one grade higher than PCGS's Population Report's Bell curve will permit.
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not to hijack TLS's thread but I gotta show thisen to all of you, I want a show of hands who thinks this thing is real http://cgi.ebay.com/1895-O-MORGAN-D...NT_W0QQitemZ260025242387QQihZ016QQcategoryZ139812QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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not to hijack TLS's thread but I gotta show thisen to all of you, I want a show of hands who thinks this thing is real http://cgi.ebay.com/1895-O-MORGAN-D...NT_W0QQitemZ260025242387QQihZ016QQcategoryZ139812QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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