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The fact that you fail to see how it affected the value does not mean the value was not affected.
Kudos to the thread OP for a job well done. It's like I tell people - no paycheck is worth me not being able to lay my head on my pillow and sleep soundly :)
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Quote: The fact that you fail to see how it affected the value does not mean the value was not affected. Perhaps. Then again, if someone OWNS property, they really ought to be able to do whatever they want with it... the delicate sensibilities of the "purists" among us notwithstanding. Who is to say who these will be sold to eventually? If it isn't to a purist, anyone else will appreciate a shiny coin more than one that looks as if it was dug out of the ground somewhere. Besides... as a chemist, I can EASILY re-age them at any time... and no one without an electron microscope handy would ever know the difference. 
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Quote: Tarn-X isn't formulated for coins. And yes, it does both. Not that my Mettler 0.1 mg balance could detect. Shrug.
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Valued Member
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Thanks for cleaning your coins. It makes mine more valuable.
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I have no problem with people doing whatever they want to or with their property. However, as a collector, I feel the need to inform (not enforce).
I do not want anyone to do anything they will/may regret. Now that the warning is out there and we have made our opinion clear (do not clean your coins), have at it.
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Quote: Thanks for cleaning your coins. It makes mine more valuable. No problem. Glad to assist. 
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Quote: Thanks for cleaning your coins. It makes mine more valuable. Pretty much this. They are yours. enjoy them how YOU want to enjoy them. As long as you understand that the industry does share your opinion and any effective value is lost once cleaned, that's your decision to make. Kudos for holding true to your own style. To many people just change their mind to easily because "the collective has spoken."
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United States
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Just a question here. If one was to brighten up a coin using a mixture of baking soda and water. Is that just as bad as using a substance like Tarnax? Is "Don't clean your coins!" mean under no circumstances don't clean your coins? Just asking. As for what Ed_B wants to do with his Morgans. My feeling is. His property paid for with his money. Enjoy the glow of your newly cleaned Morgans!
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Rest in Peace
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Quote: Is "Don't clean your coins!" mean under no circumstances don't clean your coins? Just asking. Leave coin cleaning to the professionals:  Your example is exactly the reason why "don't clean your coins" is the rule. You have a nice painted car, except for some road grime and maybe bug stickum. Would it be OK to brighten it up a bit by taking a handful of gravel in water and polishing it down to the shiny original metal? If you're looking at me like I'm crazy, consider the relative size of a coin and a car hood. Magnify the coin surface a few hundred times so they're equal, and that's exactly what the scratches from baking soda will look like. Heck, it'll grind the crud off your teeth, what'll you think it will do to soft silver or copper? I'll betcha nickel you weren't talking about making a paste and letting the coin sit in it, then washing it off in running water, were you? No, you were gonna grind away and polish the coin's surface. Polish is another term for tiny scratches reflecting light. Take a magnifier to a polished piece of silverware if you doubt me. Your suggestion is worse than tarn-x. Tarn-x reacts chemically with the coin surface, baking soda scratches it. A more obvious version (actually recommended in the 50s) is the scratches left by an eraser. One day, a customer spent a couple hours in a coin dealer's parking lot, "cleaning" his coins before selling them. Guess he figured the dealer couldn't afford his own eraser. I'm glad I wasn't the one who had to tell him he erased $10,000 worth of collector value an hour.
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Valued Member
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Thanks biggfredd for the information. Greatly appreciated.
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Quote: Tarn-x reacts chemically with the coin surface Only if you consider oxygen that has bonded to the Ag as "the surface". It wasn't there when the coins were made. Nature added it afterwards. Quote: I'm glad I wasn't the one who had to tell him he erased $10,000 worth of collector value an hour. Therein lies the value of owning bullion coins and not numismatic coins. My coins have little to no numismatic value, so if I cut their numismatic value in half via some VERY careful cleaning, so be it. I can afford the penny or two lost on each one.
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Quote: Only if you consider oxygen that has bonded to the Ag as "the surface". It wasn't there when the coins were made. Nature added it afterwards. If I recall correctly, and the chemists will correct me if I am wrong, but Tarn-x will remove the oxygen and the silver atoms they are bonded to. That is, some metal is removed, although nowhere near as much as an abrasive cleaning. Still, I would not want to risk it; but that is my choice.
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Rest in Peace
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Quote: Only if you consider oxygen that has bonded to the Ag as "the surface". It wasn't there when the coins were made. True, the O[sub]2[/sub] wasn't there, but the Ag was. When you break the bond that created the tarnish, what happens to the silver? If you wonder, take a look in a used jar of Jewlustre.
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