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Gold 1852 D $2.5

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 Posted 10/19/2011  6:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jaygi11espie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey gang. Requesting your thoughts on the value of a 1852 D $2.50 NGC "AU Improperly Cleaned." The coin was passed down through my family and I wasn't sure how to apply "pricing guide" values with it being improperly cleaned... I'd appreciate your advice. Thanks again!

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 Posted 10/19/2011  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cleaning is a variable term, including everything from a light wipe to vigorous scrubbing. I can't venture a guess about the severity of the cleaning based on your photo but the effect on value will depend to some extent on how badly cleaned it is.

As a very rough guide, a light cleaning on a rare coin like this might knock off 10-20% compared to an original coin with the same detail level. If the cleaning is more severe take off another 10-30%. Ultimately the value is whatever a collector will pay.

I'm on the lookout for a Dahlonega quarter eagle for my collection. I personally would prefer not to buy a "problem" coin since that would hurt the appreciation potential (plus, it would bother me!). However, plenty of buyers would be interested in your coin if it's discounted appropriately.

The most recent Heritage auction sales for this date in AU-55 were for $5200-5500. "Problem" coins with AU details but scratched or ex-jewelry went for less than half those values. A cleaned piece should be worth a bit more than scratched or jewelry pieces.

Wish my family had passed one of these down to me!
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 Posted 10/19/2011  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaygi11espie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your insight - I really appreciate your time. That is very helpful information. We have a child on the way, maybe I'll shoot for $3,025 and see if any of my local coin buyers are interested. Thanks again!
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 Posted 10/19/2011  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
email heritage auctions and see if you can consign it that would be one way to go. it might take some time but at least you will get a fair amount of money for it. You need to have at least a $5000 value to consign and I think this might just make it or be close.
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 Posted 10/19/2011  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shinystuff6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is an 1852-D, AU-55 listed on ebay right now for $9000, and it looks about the same as yours. Could you post a pic of the reverse of your coin?
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 Posted 10/19/2011  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaygi11espie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a pic of the back of the coin for reference. Thanks!

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 Posted 10/20/2011  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsalot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my opinion, it would be worth the effort to put it on Heritage to auction it off. You'll get a much wider pool of bidders rather than just your local coin shops.
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 Posted 10/20/2011  01:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too bad its cleaned
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 Posted 10/23/2011  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jaobler has it right and lately NGC has been grading very harshly and arbitrarily, leading to some nice deals on 'problem' coins that would otherwise being put in normal slabs (this includes some light problem coins that were previously overlooked)
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 Posted 11/01/2011  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaygi11espie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you guys for all of the advice - I definitely learned a few things. I looked into Heritage Auctions, but felt uneasy about loosing sight of the coin. I'm going to let it take a ride on ebay to see what happens. This is a great forum, thank you again for all of your time and advice.
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 Posted 11/01/2011  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saruma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Heritage is the auction house that deals with the rarest and most valuable coins. Last year they auctioned off a 1913 Liberty nickel worth several million dollars. So they are pretty trustworthy in terms of dealing with your coin. In fact I'd be more concerned about ebay since it is easier for scammers to work the system, although I'm not paranoid about it.

That being said, ebay is certainly a good place to start since the fees are lower than at Heritage. If you can't get the price that you want there then think about heritage again. If you do ebay make sure you send it registered mail insured.
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 Posted 11/01/2011  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ACE Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some Greysheet info that may help out:
AU bid is $5800.
EF bid is $$2450.
The EF bid area is probably a general idea of what to expect, given that it will probably be thought of as AU details net EF.
Still quite an attractive piece!
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 Posted 11/01/2011  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I saw your auction on ebay and believe your coin is worth $2,450. I would consider adding some close up images of both surfaces to the auction to increase the potential hammer price. I see you added "zoom" images, but your photos do not provide enough surface detail for a good assessment of the piece's value.

I use a jeweler's loupe and my camera's macro setting to get detail. Capture an image through the loupe. It's far from a professional set-up but is cheap and gets the job done. Good luck with your auction!
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 Posted 11/02/2011  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaygi11espie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the advice, I withdrew the auction until I can provide better "zoom" images. I want to allow the buyer to make an informed decision. I'll give the jeweler's loupe a shot.
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