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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by Jayman931
11/05/2011 04:46 am
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the pictures a little blurry, so I can't see any doubling. What section looks doubled to you?
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Pillar of the Community
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America...Its not even close to normal...I will post a side by side if you want...
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"Normal" 1984P America  My questioned coin  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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The lettering is certainly different, therefore constituting a different variety.
It would be necessary to find out if this variety has or has not already been identified.
I would guess that there are at least 100,000 similar coins; that number would depend on the die life.
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how do you make a "guess" that there are "at least" 100,000 similar coins? I have seen at least 1000 84p's and none looked like this..>
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Jayman 931:
The total production of 1984 coins was 13.7 billion. That's a lot of coins.
If 100,000 coins come from each die for the 1984 production, there were 137,000 dies made! That's a lot of dies.
If you are trying to find one of the coins you have pictured, the chances of actually finding one from all of the Cents in circulation, would be much less than one in a million.
You are lucky to have found it and identified it, and we are lucky that you have posted it.
That is why I think it is a worthwhile exercise to find if anyone else has identified this variety. It may save yourself some effort.
By way of comparison, 484,000 1909 VDB 's' cents were released for circulation. Perhaps four dies were used for this.
Edited by sel_69l
11/05/2011 06:07 am
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Do you understand the process the mint does to ensure there are no "errors" or varieties? There could be 100,000..or 1,000,000...or 10...
I guess I have looked at tens of thousands (and yes.thats not alot compared to what is minted)...but have not seen this much of a spread...I suppose it could just be common and significant for me..
I guess I am asking for solid knowledge and not assumptions
Edited by Jayman931
11/05/2011 06:11 am
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Nevertheless , I think you have truly identified a different variety, despite the Mint's best efforts to eliminate them.
Once the minting press is set up, away it goes.....
Perhaps someone else can shed more light on die life with current minting technology.
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So are there 100,000 Close AM's? 100,000 72 1DO-001's?..... 100,000 55 DD's? I'm not saying I have anything close to those coins...but I'm not trying to generalize...when ever I give advice/answers to a posters questions...it isn't guess work...or assumptions...I don't fly by the seat of my pants.. This could very well be a common coin..but then again...I haven't seen a spread like this....how many cents do you go through a week? |
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I do not think that what you have is a common coin. I think you have discovered a significant variety.
I have a New Zealand / Bahama Islands mule, struck from a pair of error mismatched dies. 80,000 coins were struck of this mismatched die error. All were released into circulation before the mistake was discovered. Today these are valued at around $60 each.
Thankyou for posting your coin.
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11/05/2011 07:45 am
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Neither of those coins are unusual in any way. The mint had a lot of trouble with quality during that era, and die life was extended beyond normal. As a result, a good number of cents from any year 1982-1988 had differing types and amounts of die wear.
BTW, it would take viewing close to 4,000,000 cents from any one year during this era to make a statistically important measurement. Considering I've only been through about 2,000,000 Lincoln cents in my lifetime, I highly doubt any one person could ever view enough cents of one single year to make accurately concluding statements about them.
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coppercoins: Fair comment.
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Those are some big letters in AMERICA! Good catch.
But I would say I've seen dramatic differences in the AMERICA lettering in the 1998, 1999, and 2000 searches for WAMS. And the same looking for the elusive 1992D and 1992 CAMS. I'll just say "fat" and "skinny" letters. I've noticed it more on the 92's looking for CAMS! Die wear, too?
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Daddy- Well I thought they were big too...but apparently its just from the mint using the die way to long. If you read coppers comments he explains it. I suppose there would be some spliting on the letters if it was a Doubled Die. Oh well....search on!
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