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Film Build Up In Uni-Safe Folders

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 Posted 11/09/2011  2:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add EY_Pep to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've bought several of the blue Uni-Safe folders for my collection of circulation coins about 6 months ago.
Some of them have begun to develop a film inside the coin slots. If I take the coin out, there is nothing on the coin, but the slot in the folder will have a ring of cloudy film in the shape of the coin inside. I can rub it away with my finger or a tissue...but for 100's of coins this is ridiculous.
I can post picture later, but I wanted to know why this is happening?
Does anyone else get this problem?
Should I be storing the folders somewhere special to not get this problem? (currently they are on a book shelf)
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 Posted 11/09/2011  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope that this isn't a book made with the dreaded PVC in the plastic. I would have thought his would not be a problem with 6 onth old Unisafe books. PVC is scary stuff. I could take a picture tonight of a 1 cent coin that I just pulled from the 1973 double dollar set which included PVC. The obverse is completely covered in a gluey mixture of plastic resin and red fluff, which used to be part of a red PVC/velvet holder. Personally, I wouldn't take the chance.
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 Posted 11/09/2011  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverBug to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have same problem with un-safe albums, but there is no resource to clarify whether it's PVC free or not, maybe I should switch to uni-master(gardmaster)?
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There should be no PVC (Polivynilcloride) in the uni-safe blue books, from what you are describeing it sounds like you have a humidity problem.
I have seen this before, and not to put a bad spin on it it wasnt pretty. Especially if the coins are copper they will end up with a green film on them.
It doesn't matter what you do now with your folders the damage has been done the covers of the books are plastic and the inserts are attached to the plastic covers the leaching has already done its work.
I would strongly recomend you remove the coins starting with the worst looking one and lay them on a tissue to dry, then store them in 2x2 holders and pages and store them as close to the floor as possible, I have 15 volumes of coins stored this way and have had no problems in over 20 years..
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 Posted 11/09/2011  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EY_Pep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By a 2x2 holder do you mean those carboard ones with the plastic window? I'm not a fan of sealing the coins away, I like to take them out and look at them in hand.

Well, either way it looks like I have to spend $ on buying new holders/books...$ I'd rather spend on coins :(

Also this will be a lot of work to move 1087 coins into the new folder/storage book...geesh
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The general rule of thumb for PVC (polyvinylchloride) is that if the plastic holder is soft and pliable, then chances are it has PVC. The plasticizers (typically, phthalate esters) used to soften the PVC can damage a coin's surfaces over time. The brown Coinguard albums, have the stiff to almost brittle plastic inserts, which are mylar or polyester, and are a good choice for display. Mylar also is in the windows of most cardboard 2x2 flips (most, but not all - again, push on the window with your thumb - if it breaks like a 'snap' it is safe, if you can deform the window with your thumb, without breaking, it is not safe. The mylar windows should feel slippery, not sticky...

If you like access to your coins, it sounds like all-plastic two-part holders would be best for you. You can choose flips with one pocket (for the coin) or two pockets (one for the coin and the other for a paper insert on which you can attribute and describe the coin. Unlike many other holders, safety flips let you view edge of the coin. There are two kinds of flips: 1) low-plasticizer PVC flips and 2) polyester flips. Low-plasticizer PVC flips are often mistakenly called non-PVC flips or PVC-free flips, even by some coin supply dealers, despite the fact that they're made of PVC. Low-plasticizer PVC flips are much safer than ordinary PVC flips for long-term coin storage. The good ones tend to look and feel somewhat "brittle".

As an example, this is what they look like (I just did a web image search for 'saflips'):

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 Posted 11/10/2011  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EY_Pep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I'm off the the coin store tomorrow to look at some of my options, thanks for all the info and options...
Decisions, decisions...hmmm?
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 Posted 11/11/2011  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrCanada to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have mine in uni and gardmaster there ok but have some limitations. I am looking at an altenative,I kind of like uniqe monaire system haven't tried it yet but considering it strongly. Good flexability. Similar to the 2x2 idea just better presentation.
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 Posted 02/12/2013  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add deepdark1972 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just doing a search on uni-safe and found this dead thread.

I picked one up for my pennies.

From what I have read, I am going to have to look for another option. Too bad... they are a perfect size and great for browsing.
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Quote:

As an example, this is what they look like (I just did a web image search for 'saflips'):


I believe the inner flip used by ICCS are Saflips.
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Thanks!
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Thanks for the info everyone.....I do have albums for the penny and nickels, they are great for browsing, but if they are going to collect this film, I might as well buy some 2x2's and start filling them up...
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I had some Unisafe coin folders, for pennies, nickels, and dimes that I populated about 18 years ago and then stashed and didn't look at often. I pulled them out last night and was appalled at the decay of some of the coins. Thankfully I had no silver in any of them.

All the pennies had a slight "slime" on them, and many were already green around the edges. The nickels all looked good up until 1981. From 1982 onward into the 90s they all took on a dull greenish tint. None of the dimes appeared to suffer any ill effect. Regardless, I removed all the coins from the folders and will be giving them all an acetone bath. I threw the folders in the trash.
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Good to know. I was about to post the same question when I searched and found this post.
I recently bought books of pennies and nickels and both collections are in Uni-safe books. I liked that so I bought similar pages with coin slots for Christmas. Now I'm going to get rid of all of this stuff and switch to 2x2s or 1.5x1.5s with some good quality pocket pages instead.
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I have been using Gardmaster for the last five years with no ill effects and I like that I can custom make a sheet to go behind each page using Word if I want to make different years than the ones they come with.

I also notices that Lighthouse has come out with something new in the last year that looks interesting. I might have considered it if I did not already have something I liked.
Link to Lighthouse:

https://coinstampsupplies.com/produ...day-save-20/
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