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What Can I Do To Make This 1909 VDB Look Better?

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As you can see its got some verdigre on it and I'm wondering if acetone will get it off. What exactly do I have to do here? Thanks dudes


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If this were mine, and I am not advising, I would probably put it on a small piece of paper towel in a small jar with about 1 ounce of acetone and let it soak a week or two. Then I would see if rinsing under plain tap water made it better. I would pat it dry and repeat the process. When I was happy with the final result I would rinse it with distilled water and dry it with a hair dryer. Then it would go in an airtite capsule.
If there was absolutely no change in appearance, I would try a few week soak in olive oil. Then acetone then same as above.
Just my method, I suspect that is PVC contamination and not verdigris.
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I think it's PVC as well. I had a couple LWCs that I fished out of a bin at a coin shop with PVC on it. No problem. I then cleaned it up and had a decent coin.
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what exactly is PVC ? the green crap on coins right?
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Yes. The result of improper storage in plasticized vinyl flips. If they are soft and smell like petrolium, do not buy. Use mylar only. More rigid, no smell.
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I think you guys are right I think it is PVC. So soak in acetone for a week? Where can I get acetone?
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You can get acetone at your local hardware store.
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Walmart by the gallon.
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I think you guys are right I think it is PVC. So soak in acetone for a week? Where can I get acetone?


NOW ... BE CAREFUL WITH ACETONE!
It is dangerous and hazardous material!

READ and HEED THE LABEL WARNINGS and DO BE CAREFUL.
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i got my acetone at home depot, cant believe they sold it to a kid X(
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I wouldnt touch it...looks fine as is...never clean coins!
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It looks fine to me for a 1909. I wouldn't touch it, especially if it is a hole filler. It seems well defined, and I'm not sure if you would add any value to it by doing anything to it.

That being said, you shouldn't have any problems with acetone. Just make sure and blot the acetone off the coin when you are done, rinse in water and blot again.
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Soaking a coin in acetone long-term is about the worst advice I've seen given on this forum. There isn't anything acetone can do for a coin in a week it couldn't do in a few seconds. Furthermore, my advice is not to use acetone at all on copper based coins - it changes the surface color and appearance, and is ALWAYS easy to tell if a cent has been chemically altered with acetone.

Get some verdi-care from badthad here on the forum and use it. Made for exactly what's going on with this coin, and it works.
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I dont want to change the look of the coin, I just want to get rid of the PVC contamination.
Verdi-care or acetone?
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I vote Verdi-care! I've had great results!
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Soaking a coin in acetone long-term is about the worst advice I've seen given on this forum. There isn't anything acetone can do for a coin in a week it couldn't do in a few seconds. Furthermore, my advice is not to use acetone at all on copper based coins - it changes the surface color and appearance, and is ALWAYS easy to tell if a cent has been chemically altered with acetone.

Get some verdi-care from badthad here on the forum and use it. Made for exactly what's going on with this coin, and it works.


Acetone, in the presence of light, is capanble of creating a reaction with copper that forms acetic acid. This will not happen if the acetone bath happens in the dark, but that kinda defeats the purpose of seeing if it worked.

Coppercoins is quite right, anyways - even though you could leave a coin in acetone forever, it wouldn't improve anything after the first few minutes. PVC removal from silver could take longer, but you'd want to be changing the solution every few minutes anyways.

Another vote for Verdi-care here.
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