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Notched Tailfeather 2011 Eagles..take A L@@k And Lets Talk

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 Posted 11/24/2011  9:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ilikeikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Today I came across a thread on another forum, which perked my interest about the 2 Eagles in the 25th Anniversary set...the NO-S Bullion Coin, and, the S-Mint Eagle:

I looked at my 4 sets, and 8 coins, and, roughly found 5 of 8 have this newly discovered "Notch"...here's an ebay listing, perhaps by the discoverer:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-25th-A...t_1780wt_356
I have 2 other posts on here with pics of my notching, type "Notched Tailfeather" in CCF search box to see.
Seems like an interesting find...may, or may not play out to be of any significance...we'll see...IF one of the big coin Magazines picks it up as a true Variety, yes, it might be big...to me, it looks like a die dent of minor premium..IF it turns out to be a marker for San Francisco Minted Bullion coins, that's a cool thing to know...right now, the only way to know where the No-Mintmark Eagle was minted is off the green monster box shipping labels...since I have a PCGS "Struck in San Francisco" MS69 2011(S) specimen, it made hunting easy...IT has the best, clearest tailfeather notch, due to a true early die state...as the dies age, the dent gets less and less viewable, which is to be expected with die wear...
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 Posted 11/24/2011  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too bad I sold one on ebay already shipped.

I will check my other 4 sets to see whats up and make comparisons, will follow up!
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 Posted 11/25/2011  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilikeikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another listing, I think from one of the guys that discovered the notched tailfeather issue, so we can follow it, if we want..NO idea how this will play out...if anything, it seems like a reliable marker for SF minted coins, at this point...maybe...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/32080084739...t_1752wt_356
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 Posted 11/25/2011  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilikeikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another ebay listing, I believe by one of the founders of the notched tailfeather...if anything, it seems like it might be a viable marker for SF minted Bullion coins..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/32080084739...t_1752wt_356
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 Posted 11/25/2011  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BJ Neff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not a great fan of the incidental die gouge or die scratch making something into a supposed rarity. The speared buffalo (on the bison nickel), the speared eagle (on the Sacagawea dollar), the high and low leaf on the Wisconsin quarters are all examples of common anomalies being made into something more than they actually are. Even the "poor man's double die" falls into this category with its cause being Die Deterioration Doubling.

On this "notched" tail feather, it looks like the hype will begin again, where something that is more than likely common will be blown into huge proportions.

Just my opinion.

BJ Neff
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11/25/2011 2:57 pm
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I agree BJ..the notch may turn out to be a good marker, if anything, to prove SF Minted coinage, that's all...BJ, did you see my mention of an Eagle from these sets with noticible DIMPLES? I can find it, and shoot, if you want..1 coin in 20 has them, reverse, off LL in DOLLAR..not a big deal, not sure...let me know.
Thanks
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 Posted 11/25/2011  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can attest that my remaining 4 sets have the notched tail feather on the S and (S), with two having the stronger notches.
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 Posted 11/27/2011  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BJ Neff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Calvin - "dimples" while it is a die variety I believe, is way to common to draw any interest from collectors. On top of that, the anomaly fades. By the time the die has reached MDS, it has more than likely disappeared from the die's surface.

At best, I can be used for a die state indicator, but even that can be iffy since the exact circumstances surrounding its formation is not exactly understood.

Thanks though.

BJ Neff
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