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25th Anniversary Bullion Coin Surface Finish

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There's quite a busy thread on the subject over the the PCGS forums, and I wanted to start a discussion on the subject here.

I have examined my 25th Annie sets carefully, and I agree that the bullion coin has a much more burnished finish than either the (S) or (W) uncirculated coins in the set. It's also noticably more burninshed than my regular 2011 bullion coin that I bought earlier this year.

I guess the implication here is that we may end up with a 3rd "key" coin in the set, because the bullion coin may be identifible from other bullion coins because of it's extra-burnished finish.

So what do you guys think?
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 Posted 12/04/2011  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mach1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Image 1: The West Point uncirculated coin from the set is on the left, 2011 bullion coin from the set is on the right.
Image 2: The West Point uncirculated coin from the set is on the left, 2011 bullion coin from the set is on the right.
Image 3: Regular 2011 bullion coin is on the left, 2011 bullion coin from the 25th Annie set is on the right.
Image 4: Regular 2011 bullion coin is on the left, 2011 bullion coin from the 25th Annie set is on the right.

The difference between 2011 regular bullion and 25th Annie bullion coins here is so very dramatic. Not difficult to see.



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Edited to add two more images.
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12/04/2011 2:26 pm
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I see the difference. It is drastic. Lets hope your right about the 3rd key.
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I believe there is a difference in the coins as well.

But for now, TPGs have already said they will not recognize it as a variety.
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But for now, TPGs have already said they will not recognize it as a variety.


Yup, and if those who recognize do not recognize it then it will not be recognized...



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That was one of my first thoughts when I opened my box:
The 'bullion' coins in my Sets look much more like the "S" coins next to them than my real bullion 2011 ASE's.

I'm almost tempted to slip a standard 2011 bullion coin into one of the Mint ASE capsules, and photograph the Set both ways to compare the two.

Personally, I would say the Set's 2011(S) is "burnished".
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I asked this question very early on the PCGS board. Basically laughed at by them.
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I don't have a regular bullion coin to compare it to, the only ones I have besides the ones in the sets are the W point collector coins that the mint sells but from your picture I can't tell if its the WB causing the difference or if its the coin because I am guessing the background is the same in all photo's and they look completely different in the photos
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The difference seen in the pics is the light coming through the window because they were taken at different times of day.

ISO, F-Stop, EV, ect, were the same in both pics. Shots were taken on a tripod with a Nikon D90 and remote shutter release.
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I asked this question very early on the PCGS board. Basically laughed at by them.


That dosen't suprise me. Sometimes folks aren't very nice over there. I just read over there, not a member.
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