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1859 Indian Head Cent

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Ratings, grades, and appraisals greatly appreciated (:

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Probably would grade EF, if not for all the verdigris.
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under all the green stuff its around XF
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EF details.
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Would there be a safe way to remove the green stuff, leaving the coin look like it wasn't there, or I'm just better off leaving as-is right? Does the green stuff hurt the value of the coin, or does it still get XF price?

Thanks for the responses!
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And what causes the green stuff? Was this coin buried at some point?
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verdigris
A green or greenish-blue pigment resulting from the action of acetic acid on copper and consisting of one or more basic copper acetates.
This is the "stuff" that others mentioned. This happens a lot on copper cents older and newer. There are ways to clean this. Type in and click on Search Coin Community. Just trying to help.
"Stuff", good learning curve. Iol
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Ahh yes I saw that, veridgris, I just wasn't sure if that's what was referred to earlier to I shyed away from using it, thank you, lol.

I'll do just that, thanks again!
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Do NOT attempt to remove that verdigris! If you try to clean the coin at this point, you won't like the results.
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Bad Thad, wouldn't it be helpful to use your Verdi-Care treatment on this coin, just to arrest the corrosion process and stabilize the surfaces? Obviously it wouldn't restore missing metal but it should prevent further deterioration, right?

Oh, I agree with previous posters that this coin has EF detail with a serious corrosion problem. It unfortunately would be worth just a fraction of the value of a no-problem 1859 in EF grade.
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Nice details, but looks like corrosion runs deep. Don't think any type of cleaning will do much for the value.
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Thanks guys, the info I found on cleaning them didnt seem too promising either, I think you have answered my questions. Thanks everyone!
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Nice details, but looks like corrosion runs deep. Don't think any type of cleaning will do much for the value.


Exactly, you will be left with an XF 1859 IHC full of pits and holes. This looks like heavy corossion over many years, doubtful it would ever look much better. Great detail though, shame about the surface damage.
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There is no way to fix this coin. It was once an EF, but now it might net VG..imo
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I agree with DV. Too far gone. G-VG FMV.
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