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Laquered Coins - Clean Before Selling

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 Posted 01/09/2007  09:35 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I understand now, that the Lincoln Penny, oooppss - cent, collection I have is for the biggest part laquered. From 1930 to 1980, the gentleman who had this collection went to the bank each yr and picked up a brand new cent for the book. Almost every one is bright red and in perfect shape. I intend to sell them, on ebay I guess. My question , would cleaning them first with acetone help or hurt their value? What are the risks of either the chemical or air causing some weird toning?
Thx Jim
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 Posted 01/09/2007  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
actone will make your cents turn a blueish for the copper clad 82-06
1909-1982 copper it wont do that to them. So Do what you want
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 Posted 01/09/2007  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps if they are lacquered and if they are indeed red, leave them as they are. You will never know that if you strip the laquer off, the coins will start to oxidize, which is not a good idea. Do wait around and see what others think.
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 Posted 01/09/2007  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errorcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Leave them alone and advertise them for what they are, great BU examples that have been well preserved. In your description say that the buyer can leave the cent as is or use acetone which will dissolve the lacquer without hurting the copper. Best of both worlds with less work.
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 Posted 01/09/2007  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The practice of lacquering coins was acceptable at one point in history.

I have many single examples of this in my collection .

put the set up with a reserve, check the market and see what happens,, but I would not alter the coins any further by trying to clean them.


(I understand now, that the Lincoln Penny, oooppss - cent)

You can call them pennies if you want to ,, Just add United States in front so that those of us with limited vocabularies will be able to follow the information.Laquered-Coins---Clean-Before-Selling


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quote:
Originally posted by Metalman

The practice of lacquering coins was acceptable at one point in history.

I have many single examples of this in my collection .

put the set up with a reserve, check the market and see what happens,, but I would not alter the coins any further by trying to clean them.


(I understand now, that the Lincoln Penny, oooppss - cent)

You can call them pennies if you want to ,, Just add United States in front so that those of us with limited vocabularies will be able to follow the information.Laquered-Coins---Clean-Before-Selling


Metalman

Metalman, sure hope you know I am just having fun. I have butchered more words than Attila the Hun has enemies. Thx for your help, I really appreciate it. Jim



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 Posted 01/09/2007  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thx very much to everyone. I think I have a good idea what to do, now. I sure hope all of you know how much help you are to the new guys on the block, like me.
Jim
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 Posted 01/10/2007  06:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muckeye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jim, The Australian Mint used lacquer on its Mint and Proof sets in the mid 90s, they stated such on the packaging. I don't know if they stopped doing it or just stopped advertising it. FYI, regards,
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A lot of collectors will consider the lacquered coins perfectly acceptable. I would be concerned that if you tried to remove the lacquer that the result may be worse than if they were left as is.
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 Posted 01/10/2007  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add busthalf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
tell me more about this lacquering. I have never heard of this.
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 Posted 01/10/2007  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like lacquered coins, since there might be some vivid toning hiding underneath. I'm not the kind to keep the lacquer on, but I don't see a problem with others doing so.
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quote:
Originally posted by busthalf

tell me more about this lacquering. I have never heard of this.



Hi Busthalf,
Yrs ago, it was apparently both acceptable and almost standard practice to lacquer coins to try and preserve them and or stop oxidation. I also believe there was a stronger tendency to lacquer copper coins as they tend to be more reactive.
Jim
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[quote]Originally posted by muckeye

Jim, The Australian Mint used lacquer on its Mint and Proof sets in the mid 90s, they stated such on the packaging. I don't know if they stopped doing it or just stopped advertising it. FYI, regards,
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Thx Bob, I sure did not know this. One more piece of good info to file away. Jim
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thanks jim
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 Posted 01/10/2007  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Way, way back when I was a kid it was really common to coat coins to preserve them. Some embedded them in liquid plastic, lacquered them, coated them with oils, etc. I still have some from when I was a kid that are embedded in plastic. That may not even be lacquer. It may be a varnish, plastic coat or something else. If you try to remove it and don't know what it is you may end up with a bigger problem than you think. Some chemicals just don't act nice when mixed. Acetone will disolve many substances but it will also react with some in a not so nice way. If you do not know what is on the coins, I would strongly suggest leaving them as they are.
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 Posted 01/11/2007  06:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muckeye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jim, re the lacquer on the Aust. mint sets. It is a product developed by American aerospace industry, a clear lacquer finish (spray can) called 'Incralac'. I have used it with good results, virtually unnoticable, even under magnification.
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