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Help Grading A 2008/2007 ASE Please.

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I am thinking of getting this one slabbed. Any opinions as to grade of this one? Thanks for any help.

Note I posted 2 pics of the OBV and 2 of the REV from the same coin. I was not sure which would be better pics for grading. Its in its original container from the mint with proof finish.

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As seen in the bottom pic, the hairline @ 3:00 on the following pic is not on the coin.
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As seen in the above pic, the black spot above the eagle is not on the coin.
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The patina in the one REV pic is on the plastic container.
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You sure it's a proof? Doesn't look like it.
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High grade coins like this are really hard to put a grade on with only photos.

I see some spots @ 5 oclock on the obverse next to the rim in one photo but not the other.

On the rev. I see something between the "IT" in United. And something above the beak on the eagle.
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Sorry - my mistake - not a proof - the ASE error was not made in proof.

Also thanks for what info you could give. I did not see the mark in between the "IT" and will have to see if this is the coin or holder the next time I can get it in hand. I am trying to decide on having it slabbed at a show this coming spring. Of course I am hoping for an MS70 and wondered if it was possible to get a decent idea as to whether it might hit this. This would be the first time I have seriously thought about getting a coin slabbed and know very little about it.
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Ms69 with the mark between IT.
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Coin has a slightly off center strike on the Obv & Rev.
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Proof like or proof? BIG DIFFERENCE, which got me trouble when I was first into numeristics.
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@Petersun

Not a proof of any sort - I am sorry for the initial mistake in my original list. This was issued as a burnished silver uncirculated coin, but only an estimated 40k were made with the reverse of the 2007.

Someone who knows more than me can correct this, but I think the term "proof like" is only relative to Canadian coins/sets.

Thanks for the help in this thread - I appreciate it.
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PL is commonly applied to certain Morgans and SMS coins. There are others, notably some first strikes or presentation examples of old commemorative halves.
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Thanks for the info. Now that leads me to another question.

Was PL an intended moniker at the time these other non-Canadian coins were made?

I remember back in the 70s seeing brochures from the RCM that labeled their sets as PL. I asked the local shop (I lived near the border) why this specific term was used and they said it was b/c the US made proof sets that were more of a mirror finish and the RCM coins were not the same mirror quality. I never thought about the validity of the answer until this thread!
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PL sets always carried that name, Morgans picked it up in the 1960s.
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if you send it to PCGS I wouldn't be surprised with a MS-67 on this coin and NGC seems to be a little more lenient on ASE's so I would guess 67-and maybe even a 68 there. I don't think it would go 69 at either because usually with a 69 a person would have a hard time seeing any marks without magnification
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It will be awhile before I get this done - I plan n sending it with my local dealer to the Baltimore show this spring. I appreciate the info from everyone.
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