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There seems to be light wear AU55/58 would be my best guess.
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I'm not seeing any wear and it looks like luster is pretty intact in the fields, especially on the reverse. If it were any date other than 1884-S I'd say it had a good shot at MS-64. The huge value difference between AU and MS on this date however means NGC and PCGS will cut it NO slack. If there is any dullness or friction over Liberty's cheek or on her cap (as I can see in the photos if I squint) they will slap it with and AU-58 and move on.
Nevertheless, if you can get this coin for AU money it might turn out to be a wonderful investment. If you already own it, a trip to PCGS and then NGC if necessary would be a worthwhile gamble IMO. It's a beauty!
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I'm thinking MS63 on this, but I agree with Jaobler. No slack.
However, I gotta say that besides above her ear, the strike on this coin is awesome. Maybe its your photo taking skills but the eagle looks super sharp to me. Its a gorgeous Morgan.
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Here is a second set of pictures with some changes to the position of the lights and the white balance setting from custom to tungsten.   |
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The new photos show more friction on the cheek and more abrasions and/or friction in the left obverse field and the field above the eagle. I think it's still worth submitting the coin for grading even though these images would make me a bit less optimistic about an MS grade.
Hey, a high-end, PCGS-certified AU-58 1884-S is an excellent coin and worth quite a bit. I have an ANACS-certified example graded AU-55. Your coin has MUCH stronger luster, MUCH less visible friction, and TONS more eye appeal. If it graded any less than AU-58 I'd be shocked.
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Agreed with Jaobler - there's too much potential to question Mint State for this coin; they'll default to AU55-58. Heck, if you can put it into a PCGS AU58 slab, you're looking at a $1300 coin.
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WOW! Super luster on a really tough MS coin, this sure looks better than a lot of MS coins posted here, but I'm inclined to think AU-58 if it goes MS then you have one heck of a coin! Has it been graded at a TPG yet? The difference in price as stated is tremendous form AU to MS about $20,000! Since there is such a big spread in UNC/MS graded coins of this date, you can be sure this coin at a TPG would get a lot of extra scrutiny, just due to the value a MS grade will add, so it will have to really be a non-rubbed coin to make it to MS grade. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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My guess would be MS63 but would definately have to hold in hand. I have a 1878 8TF that without very careful examination most people would think it was a MS64+, it's frosty full strike, minimal bags, and very lustrous but on real close examination you can see it's a AU58. Anyways,...REALLY NICE COIN!
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Looks AU55 in the images. Tough date!
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As stated, extremely tough coin in any MS grade. FMV shoots to the moon after AU58.
Having said that, very nice coin and a tough date in higher AU grades.
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The coin is currently residing in an intercept shield holder but I will be sending it to PCGS once I conjure up 8 coins worthy of their examination. I think this coin has very little chance of making MS. The reverse I believe is MS but the obverse has seen some circulation. I agree that this will most likely get an AU-55 or 58 depending on their mood. Thanks everyone for the comments!
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When you get this coin slabbed with Grade could you please post the results? Very interesting coin!
Thanks, Erik
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The reverse I believe is MS but the obverse has seen some circulation. How does one circulate a coin on only one side?  |
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How does one circulate a coin on only one side? Cabinet friction or jewlery mounting and wear most likely. But the more I look at this coin the more I like it, Still think the minor rub or wear is only on the obverse myself, wish I had an example this nice regardless of the final grade. This is one pretty dollar. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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