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I would have to say not a chance.
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Canada
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Quote: ...but this coin does not look like MS-67 You can say that again, not only does he not show the reverse, he wants $5000.00 for a VF, 1950 silver dollar. I cannot imagine that ICCS graded this coin MS-67  WOW, am I missing something. 
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Brian at ICCS, historically has not 'rewarded' lustre onm a coin as much as the US TPG's do. I'm sure for an ms67 grade, the surfaces are absolutely flawless. Over the years, I've seen plenty of ICCS high MS grades that have this muted lustre, whereas, in the US, if this was a Morgan dollar, no matter how flawless the surfaces are, I bet you wouldn't get higher than an ms64, because PCGS and others want that 'blazing lustre' (which incidentally, promotes dipping of a coin, but that's another topic!).
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Quote: I cannot imagine that ICCS graded this coin MS-67 That's another thing that really worried me. When I posted a new thread about the upcoming February Torex, DBM posted that TCNC (The people selling this coin) had been accused of switching coins in ICCS holders. Quote from DBM: We whine and complain about ebay and its sellers on this forum,yet we look forward to an auction conducted by those who allegedly switched coins in ICCS holders and were expelled from the CAND.Here is the Thread: https://goccf.com/t/109791
Edited by Canadian-Banknotes 02/08/2012 4:26 pm
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Edited by DBM 02/08/2012 7:39 pm
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The fact that the coin is scanned also tends to wipe out the showing of any lustre it has.
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$5000 ? wow what is he smoking?
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IMO this MS67 dollarlinked to by canadian-banknotes,is strictly a "money" coin.It may well be a technically graded MS67 but it lacks the eye appeal of many of it's lower-graded lower-priced bretheren.Our grading system makes "rarity for rarity's sake" coins like this possible,they have no appeal or history,they are strictly,investment grade coins.Investors need coins like this because truly rare and significant Canadian coins don't sell frequently,and dealers are more than happy to have a supply of these coins available.Buyers of coins like this never want to hear "buy the coin not the holder" to them the number that comes after MS is all that matters.
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Rest in Peace
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$5000 for a one-sided coin graded by someone who got lucky the night before? No way!
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Canada
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With so many ICCS holders out there, makes one wonder how much switching coins in ICCS holders there is. Buyer beware ?
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Canada
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I just asked a question for him to post the other side of the coin and also what the ICCS number is.Not for me but I must say I do not mind the tarnished look of the coin however the price to me is way above what I may want to pay for a coin that may be meant for those who collect for future $'s.ship
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They sent me an email lettimng me know that they will provide pics of the other side along with the ICCS number. I guess if someone wanted ot they could have it checked against ICCS couldn't they.ship
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New Member
Canada
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Yep never heard back from them and they no longer answered my last attempt, oh well.ship
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Canada
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You guys figure its VF just because it's toned? I'd reserve silly comments like that till you see it in hand. we can't question the grading sight unseen. about all I'd say is the picture subdues eye appeal. It may turn out to be an original undipped gem business strike, which is possible for that year.
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It's not the fact that the coin is toned, its just that it looks like it has been in circulation... From the picture, the coin has very little detail in the hair and definitely not worth the $5,000 asking price (IMO).
I may be wrong, but I think this is the same coin that I seen at the Fall Torex. I walked past the coin, and then noticed the grade and was shocked. I said the same thing that I wrote in my initial post. I didn't think that the coin was an MS-67.
Edited by Canadian-Banknotes 03/13/2012 12:24 am
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