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 Posted 05/16/2005  5:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
As some of you know, every so often, I like to start a thread to stir the pot a little bit. I try to use things like ebay, grading, dealers, or just simply coin designs.
I do this not to offend anyone, but to simply get some members or viewers of the forum to think past the simple answers. Too often, (and I am just as guilty) you get a thought in your head, and sometimes forget that there may be a different alternative.
We live in a world of too many myths and way too many dishonest people. I am not looking to change your mind, simple to offer a different perspective.
I do not know all the answers, nor all the questions. I make a living buying and selling coins. I make friends talking about coins. I do not always agree, but very seldom will I argue.
Life is full of compromise, and learning. I try to employ both of these daily. So if you come across something that I post that just turns up the heat, just remember that sometimes I love to play "Devils advocate".
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 Posted 05/16/2005  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kyra to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Someone's gotta do it, might as well be you! How boring would it be if everyone always agreed?

Rachel [:p]
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 Posted 05/16/2005  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ya gotta love an instigator! I myself have been known to "troll" with loaded bait to see what might get caught. No harm in a little fishin'!
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 Posted 05/16/2005  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldDan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't believe what I'm reading! You mean there are actually members of this forum that would do the things you mentioned. It's hard to believe when you are as streight laced as I am. Shame on you guys...Stirring-The-Pot
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 Posted 05/16/2005  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Remember NDs avatar says
Pillar Of The Community

Isn't there some tower or "Pillar" in Italy that has a slight "lean" to it?
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aka Richard
"catch em doing something right"
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 Posted 05/16/2005  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I never really intentionally stir the pot but am glad there are people around who do. Life would be worse than merely boring if we all agreed, it might not work at all. This being said I still reserve the right to get a little "mixed up" anytime things get "stirred".
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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 Posted 05/17/2005  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My Mom used to call us "little stinkers" when we stirred things up at home. I guess we were to young to understand the word "instigator"! Little stinker is much funnier so "Oh ND you little stinker" Mike
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05/17/2005 12:48 am
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 Posted 05/17/2005  07:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There was a wise man that once stated that a revolution is necessary once in a while. If we become as stagnant as our coins, it will be a sad place indeed.
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 Posted 05/17/2005  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add longnine009 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm glad I'm not like ND.


"..I'd like to build the world a home
And furnish it with love
Grow apple trees and honey bees
And snow white turtle doves.."--The New Seekers
I'd like to teach the world to sing.

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05/17/2005 07:54 am
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 Posted 05/17/2005  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am with Old Dan on this one! And, ND, I think that revolution thing was recommended about every 20 years or so? Guess WE are way past due!
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 Posted 05/17/2005  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add miker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe stirring the pot has a bad connotation to it. If you called it 'getting you to think', you would be a little closer to the truth. I always enjoy the discussions that are brought forth here and there have been several times that I had my opinion swayed by the facts/opinions that others have had. So keep stirring.
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 Posted 05/17/2005  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zakgold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I love stirring the pot! Stirring-The-Pot

I like to gauge people's beliefs and monitor how passionate they are on certain subjects. For me, I am passionate...

...about NOT having presidents on our dollar coins. I believe some design of liberty should grace our coinage just as President Theodore Roosevelt envisioned when he mandated the US Mint to get their act together. Those early 20th century designs are still some of the most revered and collected coins today!

...about looking, buying and collecting coins that are the real deal. It is one of the reasons why I support the works of PCGS, NGC, ICG and ANACS. Even when I can see and touch the coin, I just don't trust my color judgement (Lincolns) and my grading skills from AU50 to MS65.

...about enjoying the history and art of coins. It is a moment in time. When I hold a Morgan CC circulated dollar, I envision it used in a poker game out West with the sounds of boots and spurs rustling on a saloon floor.

...about warning collectors about the SGS grading services of the world and the promises of MS70 from sellers that own and operate their own "bogus" grading company at the expense of newbies.


Well, I also believe in the soul. The small of a woman's back. The hanging curveball. High fiber. Good scotch. That the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a Constitution Amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas eve. And I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.

Sorry, I just watched the movie (again) the other night and it was fresh on my mind.

Back to the subject...as much as I have feelings for some of my posts, I like a good discussion from opposing viewpoints. But then again, before you raise your voice, reinforce the argument. That goes for you young collectors that know all of the answers. I was a teenager too before I grew up and entered the "real" world.

It's more fun when fuel is added to a fire! Stirring-The-Pot

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05/17/2005 11:05 am
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 Posted 05/17/2005  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like a good "pot-stirring" myself. It's just no fun when everybody agrees with you all of the time. Fortunately, I seldom have that problem!
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 Posted 05/17/2005  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Susanlynn9

I like a good "pot-stirring" myself. It's just no fun when everybody agrees with you all of the time. Fortunately, I seldom have that problem!



When too many people agree with me I'll usually change my opinion.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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 Posted 05/17/2005  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SFDukie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The nice thing about our coin community (thanks again, sponsors) is that we can stir the pot here- without fear of stepping on toes or being shouted down or insulted. On CU, there is a poster who when he is writing about coins, I can learn from. When he posts about politics/economics, he has a narrow, nearly paranoid conservative (in the bad sense- as in afraid of change, seeing the negative side of some very complex, nuanced viewpoints without a thought of the concept of constructive criticism or principled disagreement- he is almost that blindly simplistic in his views) world view-and he resorted to name calling! When my three year old calls me a stupid belly "bunton", I know that he is just seeking attention. When someone whom I can respect when they stick to coins starts calling me names in a forum (I mean literally), I lose some of that respect.
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05/17/2005 1:04 pm
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 Posted 05/17/2005  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As many here know, I have a great passion for coins. I have built a good business and made many good friends. I do not claim to be perfect or always right, but I do try to be the best "insider" that I can be.
In my attempts to stir the pot, it is only to get some others to look at the hobby through the eyes of a dealer. I can't please everyone, and never try, but I will always do my best to be honest and treat you with the respect that many of you show me on a daily basis.
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