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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Since purchasing a few coins, including 40% Ikes and SAE's, my grandfather occasionally ribs me for "buying money," saying things like "I've got a $5 bill I'll sell you for $20!"
This morning, when pointing out a NGC or PCGS graded MS64 graded Morgan advertised for sale for $80 as "looks like not a bad deal," he quips "back in my day, if you said 'I'm going to by a $1 coin for $80', they'da thrown you into the rubber room at the Napa State Hospital!"
*sigh*
What do you do about these people besides shrug at them?
Edited by argentum 02/23/2012 6:45 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Look through his change and buy his silver from him for 2x face. Then you watch him laugh at you, then you laugh right back.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Nicely tell him that if he had had the foresight to save some of his pocket change from when he was your age then HE would be the one getting your money now. And the more he had saved, the more money he would be making!
Seriously, just wait. One day you will find something really good. He might wake up after that. In one other hobby I have (glass insulators) I stumbled onto some key pieces. After I sold a couple, I slowly started pulling large bills out of my wallet and laying them in front of them onto the kitchen table, my whole family (and wife's family) started to respect the hobby and even started coming to me with ones they had found to see if they were anything. There is not one family member who does not have at least a couple of them now sitting in windows etc!
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United States
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Quote: This morning, when pointing out a NCG or PCGS graded MS64 graded Morgan advertised for sale for $80 as "looks like not a bad deal," he quips "back in my day, if you said 'I'm going to by a $1 coind for $80', they'da thrown you into the rubber room at the Napa State Hospital!"
I used to have conversations like this with my grandfather, although he was a coin collector himself (who got me started in the hobby). Sounds like he's just having a little bit of fun. Otherwise, if he gets worked up over the cost of an $80 slabbed Morgan, I wonder what he'd say about the price of an MS-64 graded 1909-S VDB cent?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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 I get the same thing from my 80 father in-law, so now when He's around I never talk about coins. I made the mistake once of mentioning that I purchased a 1910 dime on E-bay for $200.00. Both his eyes lit up like they were on fire. He then said, "What, have you gone mad?" After a fifteen minute argument about my love and passion for my Hobby, he still didn't get it. That conversation took place 10 years ago. He died 3 years ago, and funny thing is, that conversation was the only fond memory I have of him? Glenn 
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I heard similar stuff when I told my family I was getting serious about collecting. (Since joining this community, I've redefined 'serious'.) They were very worried that I'd be swindled out of my money by some sharp dealer. So I explained how I was just searching change and that I had made a budget for myself and I stick to it. My budget has been $50 a month which is way cheaper than golf or dining out. I hardly ever spend all of my coin allowance in one month, so I am saving and while I'm learning. Then I pointed to my mother's collection of mechanical singing mice (dozens of them) and that was that!
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Australia
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I think SJUHawks says it nicely. Non-collectors are, self-evidently, inferior beings, but they deserve our pity, rather than our scorn.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Your wasting your time if you attempt to explain coins to a non coin collector. Even to many coin collectors that collect only out of change. PAYING a few dollars for a Penny or Nickel? Why that is just nuts. It says right on them what they are worth you know. However, those same people will pay sometimes hundreds of dollars to see someone sing at a concert. Buy an old car that sold for $2700 in 1957 and now they paid $75,000 or more. Sent in for a weight reducing CD they saw on TV and never stopped to realize that if all of those were real, people would have lost 50 billion pounds or more. So called starving artist sales are blooming too and those so called oil paintings are worth less than the oils on them. One of my neighobors and his wife hit the neighborhood bar about 4 times or more a week and they too don't collect coins. Guess I could dribble on about how people that don't collect coins blow their money but why bother. Don't they know EVERYTHING? So what to say to them. Don't bother they can't hear you.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Quote: Your wasting your time if you attempt to explain coins to a non coin collector.  They just don't understand why you would pay $25.00 for a Lincoln Cent. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I've got a $5 bill I'll sell you for $20! If his fiver was one of these, I'd have my modern $20 FRN out of my wallet so fast, his head would spin off. Back when silver was $4 to $5 an oz., a few people called me a cheapskate for saving all the 90% silver coins I found in circulation. Did I care? Not really. I still have all the 90% silver coins I saved (except for one 1963-D Franklin Half-Dollar I gave away in a CCF contest a couple years back!). All acquired at face value. 
Edited by DNA 02/23/2012 6:01 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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show him the prices of key dated coins like the 1909-S VDB and tell him that is a 1ยข coin and if you could you would purchase one of those as well
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: Sounds like he's just having a little bit of fun. Aye, sure. But, if you've lived with him as your father figure for 12+ years of your life through age 24, his good natured ribbing can get old, fast. Quote: if he gets worked up over the cost of an $80 slabbed Morgan, I wonder what he'd say about the price of an MS-64 graded 1909-S VDB cent? *goes to look up the FMV on that @ Numsimedia* $2.5 K?! gadZOOKS!  WAAAY out of my league! Here's my budget for purchases is very small, as in what I get for our household CA Redemption Value recycling and anything else that I can recycle for cash, about $70 for 8+ months.
Edited by argentum 02/23/2012 7:02 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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"They were very worried that I'd be swindled out of my money by some sharp dealer."
This is exactly what my Dad was afraid of. Then I pulled out the books I had been read and rattled off some facts and he backed off a bit. When he saw me actually making a bit of money from buying and selling he realised I wasn't stupid. Even got him into roll searching!
"I've got a $5 bill I'll sell you for $20!"
Every time I see dad he pulls out a 20c coin and says "son I've got a bargain for you! Only $5 for this one".
Rather than telling them how much you pay and if you sell then tell them how much profit you make.
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 Australia
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I've found non-collectors generally fall into one of two camps. The folks like your grandfather, who cannot conceive of the concept of a coin or banknote being worth more than what it says on it, are definitely in a minority. Most people seem to understand the concept that "old things are worth more". Still, we should be thankful that such people exist, because they're the ones that will go out and spend a valuable coin or note, putting it back in circulation for us to find. A far more commonly encountered attitude is someone who understands and appreciates that "old things are valuable", but cannot understand why you would not want to cash in all of those old valuable coins straight away and do something useful with the money, or if you are holding opn to them, then you must be waiting for the price to rise to a certain level. The collector mindset, that the coins in the collection are not for sale at any price, is alien to them. Quote: Then I pointed to my mother's collection of mechanical singing mice (dozens of them) and that was that! It's always helpful to point out that, while "paying a high price for small change" might seem crazy, there are plenty of even crazier things people can do with their money. 
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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United States
220 Posts |
Quote: pointed to my mother's collection of mechanical singing mice (dozens of them) and that was that Buddy I am curious do you have pictures?
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Rest in Peace
United States
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 Sheesh! I have to be completely retrained every time I try to put up a photo! Okay, here's a singing mouse that she gave me. You press its foot -- you can probably see the arrow that says 'try me'. Then it sings "Up on the House Top". It turns slightly from right to left. Its arms go up and down a bit and the lights put on a little show of their own. My cat HATES it. I think there is at least one singing mouse for every holiday and then birthdays and anniversaries....it never seems to end.
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