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Possible Real 1943 Copper Penny!?

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 Posted 02/26/2012  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The very first pic seems to show a micro-pitted surface - even on the numbers themselves. This would be the sign of a replica. However, I also realize this could just be the pictures also.
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 Posted 02/26/2012  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MezRDH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, I am really excited that everyone is getting a look at my coin. This is really fun!
As far a I know the coin has been in the bank volt for almost 30 years. I did have one retail coin expert look at it. Maybe 6 months ago He was unsure of it and was not interested. Did the magnet and weight test. He made me more untrusting of the coin trade. Sort of a weird fella. I hope to get an answer soon. Fake or not this is fun!

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 Posted 02/27/2012  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This piece is not a real coin. It is a fake soft die struck counterfeit. There are many methods to make these, so I will not speculate on exactly which method made this one, but I am certain it is fake. The details are far too soft for this to be a real cent. ALL of the known 1943 copper cents are very normal in strike.
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The grainy appearance and bolder date compared to other devices, concerns me.
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Genuine 43 bronze cents should be sharply struck by dies set to strike much harder steel. Your example is very weak for a modern coin.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MezRDH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the remarks. I have just a little coin knowledge so I am enjoying the comments good or bad. Thanks
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 Posted 02/27/2012  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with coppercoins that this is a struck counterfeit.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MezRDH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good evening. I had hoped to post better photos of my possible real or fake 1943 copper penny but I just can not figure this photo posting thing out. I will have help soon in the next couple of days with my computer.
Any suggestions on the grading company that I should use. I have other coins that I want to be graded as well. Many different types. Most of the really good stuff that I have are in plastic white mounts.
Thanks for the help!
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 Posted 02/27/2012  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You just got the opinions of Mike D. and Chuck D....it would be a waste of money to send this one off for grading as both of these guys are better than the TPG's. That being said,if you are slabbing others for resale, I would suggest PCGS,NGC,or ANACS.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No No NO! [The 1943 penny.]
Send it to ANACS.
Get it slabbed.
As a "fake", you will have an example of an attempt to fool the public.
You have a chance to teach.
A chance to educate.
Oh, should it come back as genuine ...
all bets would be off!
But assuming that it is fake ...
And the opinions are so leaning towards a fake ...
It would STILL be worth getting a third party opinion.
As a teaching example and nothing much more.
I'll bid 30 dollars on a fake 1943 copper!
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 Posted 02/28/2012  03:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll plate a 1943 steelie rght now if you give me $30!
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 Posted 02/28/2012  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just came to the tread. Saw the first image (date only) and thought "odd porous surface". Saw second and thought "Ioo weak and odd wear pattern". Saw images of the whole coin and thought "Struck with false dies." Finished reading the thread and see that Chuck and Mike came to the same conclusion. I think we know what it is then. Interesting to see though.
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 Posted 02/28/2012  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MezRDH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am going to take the advice of Mattewvincent and have it graded. It's not that big of an expense and I think it would be a fun story. ANACS I think is the way to go as well. I will keep everyone informed. Thanks!
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 Posted 02/28/2012  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, MezRDH, you made my day!
In doing so, you will already have made a lasting contribution to the collecting fraternity.
And PLEASE collect your story into a written form.
Take the coin and your story to coin shows. Ask a friendly
dealer to display it. [Try the sponsor of the event.]
In doing so, you will make contacts. They will be an invaluable help as you sift through your father's "stuff."
And keep us in mind with any other questions that you may have.
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 Posted 02/28/2012  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
In doing so, you will already have made a lasting contribution to the collecting fraternity


The TPG will appreciate the contribution much more than we will
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