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Rest in Peace
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I read the 'O' is supposed to appear above the 'O' and 'L' on the back, but this one has it between the 'D' and 'O' or is that not the typical mark representing N.O. mint? Whatever you read is just flat-out wrong. Look at the reverses of all of these: http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/#/Morgan/GradesIf there is a mm, it's always above and between D and O. |
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Another nice thing about the 1921 dollars (besides their rarity and value) is they were struck in higher relief than other dates in the series. To me the higher relief makes them much nicer looking.
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Rest in Peace
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I don't see evidence of bad cleaning on the 21, but that can be very difficult to see in a pix.
Speaking of difficult, the 21 is very difficult to grade because they were "struck in VG". They were high relief, and the centers didn't strike up well, so they lowered the relief for 22.
Look at the reverses, especially the tail and throat feathers. Far sharper than the 22, but the hair on the 21 looks worn off, even on a new one.
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Thanks everyone, very interesting facts for sure. I can see why people get into coin collecting. I guess until you dive in you don't realize how fun collecting can be. Maybe this is a springboard for me to do more research, learn more and start casually collecting.
So the general consensus is DEF hold onto the coins, especially the 1921 which I should have preserved. Hoping there's a chance the value of the 21 would go up in the future.
Thanks again!
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superdave didnt you see the post about "ROLLER MARKS? this in my opinion is not cleaned... but those marks...
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Roller marks go under the devices. It's my understanding that when the coin is struck the metal is forced into the high points of the die & the roller marks disappear.
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03/01/2012 2:34 pm
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someone posted a link to a coin with roller marks. they do not disappear
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After looking through all the pictures I am still not completely sure what to make of the 1922. My guess would be high AU details/cleaned. My first impression of the 1921 was around EF-45 details/cleaned but in the picture with the three coins, it exhibits much more mint luster. I think it could make AU details. The 1899-O, I say is a nice EF-45.
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someone posted a link to a coin with roller marks. they do not disappear In the very first line of the text below the picture in that link there is another link that will take you to an article with more information about roller marks. Here's the link & a copy of the pertinent text: http://coins.about.com/od/uscoins/a...er_marks.htmQuote:Roller Marks go Underneath the Devices - Another diagnostic for confirming roller marks are that they will go underneath (and sometimes across) the devices on the coin and continue on the other side. The reason is that, as a feature of the planchet itself, when the coin is struck the lines are usually obliterated by the devices rising from the surface of the planchet during striking. The roller marks on the field area of the coin are often still present because the force of the strike wasn't enough to obliterate them. Large coins are more difficult to strike well, which is why roller marks are far more common on large coins such as Silver Dollars, than they are on smaller coins like Seated dimes. |
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It's too bad about that 22. I see no signs of honest circulation. The strike is dead even front to back. The surfaces on the other hand...ugh. I can see why roller marks are being brought up. Long parallel lines on the obverse and reverse that go in the same direction. However, I can't imagine how those "roller marks" created the bland lustre on the coin. And wouldn't the marks need to be much deeper to survive on top of the devices? They look pretty even in depth all the across.
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