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Seen an increasing number of fake slabs on ebay recently. They usually fall short of the full market value of an original, but still cheat large sums of money out of buyers. I found one seller this morning on ebay UK: http://www.ebay.com/sch/hannahcoins...=p4340.l2562The listings are all badly done, I suspect all the slabs are fake. I've checked the cert. number on the 1796 US dollar, which checks out on the PCGS registry, and was sold for nearly $4,000 in 2009 in its auction history. The seller also has some fake high value Chinese coins listed for sale. I've reported the listings to ebay and emailled PCGS. Question is, will it do any good? Does eBay/PCGS take it seriously enough to do anything about it? www.kingstoncoincompany.co.uk
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yes, ebay will remove them if they are clearly counterfiet as those are. That 1796 Bust Dollar has AU level detail at least. There is a reporting link within the CCF forum. Here's the real 1796 Bust Dollar with that cert number. It sold on Heritage a few years ago: http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?hdnJu...2315&x=0&y=0Edited by BH1964
03/16/2012 5:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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As a novice "counterfeit finder" was it the dates in parenthesis that really alerts you.
Thanks in advance.
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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by oih82w8
03/16/2012 6:20 pm
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Rest in Peace
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As a novice "counterfeit finder" was it the dates in parenthesis that really alerts you.
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The hologram label on the slab is poor, but these folks are getting better and better.
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There is NO WAY I'd touch that 1796 DBD.
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jeff11, thanks for the heads up about the fakes on ebay. I have been looking on ebay to get a range of a what a 1878 7/8 TF silver morgans pcgs 63 to 65 are going for. I am almost ready to purchase one. I never knew that I can have access to a cert # to see what it went for. Then again I am learning. How does one go about investigating a cert # ? |
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I never knew that I can have access to a cert # to see what it went for. You will usually need a paid subscription to PCGS and NGC to access auction prices. You can verify cert numbers on their websites for free. You are correct that knowing auction prices is a great way to determine market value for coins. Nothing beats knowing what others are paying before you buy. Heritage Auctions lists wholesale/retail values and recent auction results for coins they have listed for sale (auction). Heritage allows you to sign up for free and access this information. It is worthwhile for sure. Good Luck! |
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thank you bh1964 for the insight, I will be looking into what you have said. I am really happy I found this web page by accident and the great experts I am meeting everyday.
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Good news is - that ebay user has been removed from ebay, so it seems some action was taken. No doubt they will try eventually to open a new account, but at least its a very positive step. I'll keep a close eye out for any others. www.kingstoncoincompany.co.uk
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Just don't forget, this is a neverending game of Whackamole.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Would somebody please check this PCGS number in the cert verification other than me. I get Not a valid cert number. for 7945.55/20956819 http://www.pcgs.com/cert/If it were certified wouldn't it come up with type and grade? Here's two more I am trying to get verified, same response. 7945.50/15164253 and 7946.58/10812737 Thanks |
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The first one is coming up as a 1913 $2.5 in AU55 if thats correct?
Make sure you just enter the last 8 digits after the forward slash, it should work out for you
And Superdave - You definitely got a point there, suppose no harm in trying to make it a bit harder for them though
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Pillar of the Community
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COIN INFORMATION
Cert Verification #: 20956819
PCGS Coin #: 7945
Date, mintmark: 1913
Denomination: $2.50
Variety:
Minor Variety:
Mint Error:
Pedigree:
Country: The United States of America
Grade: AU55
Mintage: 722,000
PCGS Price GuideSM Value: $350
Holder Type: Standard
Population: 478
Edited by oih82w8
03/25/2012 3:17 pm
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COIN INFORMATION
Cert Verification #: 15164253
PCGS Coin #: 7945
Date, mintmark: 1913
Denomination: $2.50
Variety:
Minor Variety:
Mint Error:
Pedigree:
Country: The United States of America
Grade: AU50
Mintage: 722,000
PCGS Price GuideSM Value: $325
Holder Type: Standard
Population: 137
Edited by oih82w8
03/25/2012 3:17 pm
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