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Gold US $2 1/2 Coins With Chinese Marking

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I have this bracelet which was my grandmothers that is made up of 6 x gold $2 1/2 US dollars. Or at least I think thats what they are they are 18mm but I read somewhere these only weight about 4 grams each and ths bracelt weighs 60 grams including the links and safety chain which all are 22ct gold.
What is unusual is that one of the coins has four little chinese charcters/markings. You can see it in the pic. The other five dont have these markings.
Anyone seen this before or have any information - maybe these are chinese knockoffs as she was chinese.

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 Posted 03/29/2012  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorganDude26 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where are the marks?
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 Posted 03/29/2012  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps the picture is too small or not brightly lit enough. I'm having difficulty making out what you're talking about, too.
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 Posted 03/29/2012  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fran to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
when I compress it so I can put it up here it makes it small and harder to see.
One is above the dot between 1/2 and A at the end of America.
There is one just above the /
there is one above the 1 in 1/2
and there is one above the dot near you in United.

I will try again

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 Posted 03/29/2012  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the reverse is from a 1907, the reverse looks strange. Believe there should be more space between the eagle and the "2 1/2"

And those marks you point out are not on real versions of this coin.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fran to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
aas you can see from the first pic and this one it says 1907.
Does the side with the 1907 look right or maybe they are are all knockoffs.

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we would need a close-up/better picture of 1907 obverse, but the date looks off. The 1 looks slanted, the 9 & 0 look wider, and the 7 seems off.
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I'd say with those markings these were made specifically for jewelry. Well done making the photos easier to see.
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a close up off the 1907 side. thanks for your help on this.

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they are 18mm in diamter wabout how thick are they - these ones are 1.85mm thick.
Only one of the sizx coins has the chinese characters on it though. All the others dont have them.
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, Fran!

I've never seen anything like this, so my SWAG is that the coins are just replicas made for jewelry, with the jeweler's hallmarks. I'm basing this on the mention of Chinese and that the markings appear to be raised, not incuse like chopmarks. I've modified the pix for better visibility.

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Do the mounting rings appear to be part of the coins? If so, then it's surely jewelry replicas. I ask, because they all look like one piece to me.

Oddly, real or fake, as long as the gold content is good, the value would be the same.

BTW carat (ct) is a measurement of weight, used on diamonds and other stones. Karat (K) is a measurement of purity of gold, with 22K being 22/24ths pure.
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not sure if the variations I see in the date numerals are true variations or signify a fake.
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the gold content is definately good. my husband is a manufacturing jeweller. he thinks the links are formed with the piece as there is no colour differcne between the links and where they join to the coins (usually the gold solder is "slightly" different.
Thanks for your help on this one.
Now in which section woudl I post about a 18ct gold coin it's not a denomination coin its 18ct its WInston Churchill and it weighs 55 gframs - under which section in the UK coins would I post something?
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I think it might be a jewelry piece. The four characters are jing-nan?-jiang-shi, or 晶- 江e。 Jing shi means something like finely made jewelry while Nanjiang might be the city.

Can you take a better picture of the piece with macro mode (flower setting?) I'd like to know where the piece was made, or what "-jiang" it's actually from.
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I agree that without better close up pictures I would be only guessing also, need that macro shooting close up!
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I agree with Bigfred in that the raised markings point towards it being a fake, but even if it is a fake it still would be worth about the same as a ex-jewlery 1907 via melt value, sometimes the fakes are actually worth more in melt value since they sometimes are of a higher purity gold than the .900 fineness the real ones are.
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