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New Member
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Edited by shaza 04/06/2012 12:02 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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OK, it looks as though it could be a 50 or 100 Kurush piece but we'd need way clearer pictures to be sure. the 50 should weigh 3.6 gr and the 100 7.2 gr.
The date is AH 1327/4 which works out to around 1912.
So when you reply, click the box below that says "Post New Reply" and click on Upload Image. If your pictures are too big, there's an image optimiser just below.
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New Member
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Thank you so much for your reply, I really appreciate your help thank you. Unfortunately this posting and uploading is too hard for me. I cant even find the post new reply you directed me to. The coin was weighed years ago on jewellers scales, cant recall exact weight but it did weigh more than a medallion I had and the medallion weighed 15grams.Guess i'll chuck it back in drawer for another 30yrs. Thanks again
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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In which case the 500 Kurush weighs 17.4 gr.
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New Member
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Thanks Alganbagerap, the curiosity is getting to me so I will try to load the better pics tommorrow. I think 17.4gr would be about right.I found one on ebay once that looked identical-500 kurush but I'm pretty sure the weight was 30something grams? Do you have any idea of the value? I know its hard without seeing better pics but even a rough idea of value would be great..Please :)Also can you tell me is it a common coin or rare? Thanks very very much I really appreciate it, I live in Australia and havent found anyone who could tell me anything about it.Hope you have a Happy Easter.
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United States
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Welcome to the community, shaza!
Guys, the denomination is right there, under the wreath on the bottom of the obverse (the toughra side). It is 500 kurus.
The coin was struck in Constantinople (Istanbul) in AH 1327//4 (AD 1912). Composition 0.9170 gold, weight 17.54 grams (.5619 oz Actual Gold Weight). Mintage 41,863 pieces (so, not so common).
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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svslav, even with my screen on 125% I didn't spot that. OK, so I know that my specs have to be uprated.
My old Krause catalog says USD 950 for ExtraFine condition. I think it would fetch more in today's market.
And as far as living in Australia, you've got a whole rake of coin experts down in the God Zone. One of them spends a good deal of his time here.
Do you want to chip in here, Steve?
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Always check the weight of Turkish/Ottoman gold coins for counterfeits (plenty of counterfeits out there, great if you collect cheap contemporary counterfeits but depressing if you paid anywhere near/over spot). Got one just last night (100 qirsh 1327 AH) that looks very good (except where the gold dip has worn away). It was in a job lot of 100 ottoman silver/billion/copper coins that I purchased for about 100 dollars so it cost me almost nothing and I added it to my contemporary counterfeit coin collection.
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Valued Member
Turkey
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That's not an actual coin. That's what we call reşat altını (reshad's gold). It's never used as a coin its just for investment. and people give it to married couples as a gift in weddings. it's more like a jewelry issue then a numismatic item. So nobody cares if it's authentic or not. and in gold market its sale price is 650TL right now, which is 363 dollars. http://altin.doviz.com/resat-altin
Edited by apeka 04/07/2012 03:00 am
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New Member
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Thanks every one for all the info.If my coin is a 500 kurush,why does it look like the one on ebay but only weigh half as much? Apeka > are you referring to my coin in your reply?Do you think mine is (reshad's gold)? Or were you referring to (Nealeffendi>100qirsh 1327AH)counterfeit coins? The coin was given to my Mum about 30yrs ago,not a wedding gift, but a gift from a close friend.My Mum is in heaven now but I vaguely remember something about the coin once belonged to a Turkish Diplomat and the friend was Turkish..that being the only reason I thought the coin was Turkish in the first place.Thanks again every one,this site is fantastic and it has inspired me to improve my computer skills, Also very contagious as I have heaps of other coins,medallions and medals which I am about to pull out lol.
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Valued Member
Turkey
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yes shaza I was referring yours. your pictures belong to sultan reshad's gold minted for investment. when people were saving their money under their pillows instead of putting it in a bank account they were usually going to a goldsmith and turning their money in to that gold pieces. like exchange offices. now it's only a tradition in Turkey to give a gold coin to couples at weddings. and goldsmiths continue to produce that golds with the picture of Ataturk. And thats called cumhuriyet altını (gold of republic). .jpg) and an extra information. there is also one more type of gold called hamit altını (hamid's gold) it's gold pieces minted in the era of abdulhamid.  goldsmiths still trade this resad and hamid golds. for the record.
Edited by apeka 04/07/2012 06:37 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think what apeka is trying to say is that this coin was used as a bullion rather than a circulation coin. I don't agree, though, with the statement Quote: That's not an actual coin. A little bit on terminology. "Reshad's gold". Reshad was a part of the name of Sultan Muhammad V. Some of his coins bore a honorific titles "el Ghazi" (the Victorious), some "Reshad". Yours has the latter (it's the character to the right of toughra). Starting with Muhammad's predesessor, Abdul Hamid II, they issued two parallel series of gold coins, regular mint issues and "monnaie de luxe" which were intended more for presentation and jewelry purposes. The MDL coins were broader but thinner, and much more ornate. I couldn't find an example of Muhammad V's MDL 500 kurus online, but it looks very similar to this one of Abdul Hamid. What you have, shaza, is a regular mint issue of 500 kurus.
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New Member
 Australia
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Svslav,does the info you posted in your first reply 6/4/2012 still refer to my coin? Found one on ebay (item number 170818253251)>Turkey Muhammad V 500 Gold Kurush 1912-1327/4.KM#758.Is that coin the same as mine? Any idea what mine is worth? One last question..what are those 500 kurush gold coins that look like mine but weigh 36grams?Was thinking maybe they were the other coin you mentioned (broader but thinner)but my coin is fairly thin so can't imagine a thinner one could weigh 36g.Thank you so much svslav  Really appreciate your replies.Here's a pic of the one on ebay  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes, my first reply was about your coin.  And it is KM# 758 (Krause Standard Catalog of World Coins cat. number). It was minted through 1914, regnal year 6 of Muhammad V. Next four years, 1915 - 1918, the 500 kurus coin became heftier, 36.08 grams, looks pretty much the same only with "el Ghazy" next to the toughra. There had to be some kind of reform in between, maybe in connection with the World war. That must be the coin (KM# 784) you found on the net.
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New Member
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Thanks heaps svslav, your fantastic :)
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