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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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On very many occasions in this Forum, the question is asked "Is this ancient coin a fake?"
A comprehensive list of things to look out for, and tests that can be applied, AND where to go for a professional opinion, I think, would be desirable.
I hope all ancient fans can contribute to this thread, and such a list can be drawn up.
All opinions welcome!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I know that david sear will authenticate coins for around $50 the cheaper tier and 60 or 70 for the photo authentication and that price has gone up double from what it used to be but other then that I dont think that the slabbing companies really hold much water with ancient collectors and to tell the truth I cant really pay 50 to authenticate a coin unless its a valuable piece. My only insurance that a coin is authentic is to buy from a few dealers in the UK that I trust. I'm far from an expert and the only way I know many of my coins are authentic is becuase they where fully encrusted when I bought them and even with that in mind I have read about many fakes in uncleaned lots. It helps to know where they where found I guess.
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Moderator
 United States
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Wayne Sayles has written a book on counterfeit coins that I recommend "Classical Deception, Counterfeits, Forgeries and Reproductions of Ancient Coins" It is a very good source of information on the subject.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This thread made me remember a link that was posted awhile ago that talked about fake denarii, so I dug it up: http://www.tesorillo.com/fakes/index.htmNot sure if this helps your thread sel but it looks useful.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4778 Posts |
BTW there's an option on the top right corner for reading it in English.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
I'm a rank beginner of ancients, and I follow much of the advice already posted.   with others--the best advice I can give would be to only buy from well-respected dealers who can provide a lifetime guarantee of authenticity. Dealers with such guarantees should be very experienced and careful of what they buy and sell, because they don't want to lose money or get on a blacklist. So I think it all starts with making good purchasing decisions.
Edited by DVCollector 04/07/2012 4:47 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
 Australia
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ValiantKnight: Excellent discussion on the detection of Roman fakes. I will record this as a 'favourites'.
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Bedrock of the Community
 Australia
21788 Posts |
Fake coins can be produced in a few different ways.
1.Die struck 2.cast 3.electrotype
Each of them have their own characterisrics to enable identification.
Ther are several dignostic approaches to do this. They include: 1.Weight 2.Stylistic characteristics 3.Close visual inspection 4.Metal metal analysis.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
937 Posts |
Another valuble tool is the mere handling of as many ancient coins as you can, if possible, whether you collect that type or empire or what have you. Nothing beats a careful in-hand inspection with a good loupe, to see what 2000-year old metal actually looks like. Once you've handled several dozen coins from a reputable dealer or two - even if they're still in their holders - you'll start to get a feel for a real coin and the ones that are "hinky" tend to stand out.
And of course, read the forums! Lol!
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Bedrock of the Community
 Australia
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Take a lot of time to read the link provided by ValiantKnight.
It is one of the best papers I have read on the detection of ancient fake coins in some years.
I have two books on the subject of fake coins:
Wayne Sayles book 'Classical Deception', which provides references to fake ancient coins, and refers to some of the well known fakes. Charles M Larson's book 'Numismatic Forgery' describes in detail how to manufacture high quality fake coins by a number of different methods.
however,
neither of these books provide the reader with the actual means of detecting fakes for himself.
THAT is why I so strongly recommend and direct that anyone reading this thread to take the time to read the 'tesorillo' link provided by ValiantKnight.
Very fortunately, there are some very good and growing active fake coin data bases to be found on the Net. Using these, you can compare a coin that you may suspect with an example on the data base.
Edited by sel_69l 04/13/2012 11:37 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 I enjoyed reading the translation of that book, and the photos were especially interesting--it opened my eyes.
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