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New Member
United States
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I am considering buying this coin but don't know much about quarters. It looks really nice to me...but how would you grade it? Also, what would you consider a good price?   Thanks a lot! Don |
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United States
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Well, I'm no expert on SLQ's, but that thing is astounding.
There are a couple of things that don't sit right with me, but again, I'm no expert.
If it's not being sold by a serious collector (with a very, very nice collection with many beautiful coins like this), be skeptical. I'd ask to have it sent in for authentication and to have a few professionals look at it before you go any further.
The things I don't like are the astounding matte proof-like fields, the massive chunks out of the shield, the shark lines in the marble slabs alongside liberty, and the very wavy features (eagle's feather's, liberty's arm, head and dress). But I'm no expert on these, so I recommend having an expert look.
If it's too good to be true, it's probably not.
But the most important thing of all, you answered yourself. "I don't know much about quarters." Before you go buying a coin like this, get smart about quarters. Real smart. Spend many hours learning if you don't want to get burned.
Steve Caruso's website might shed some light here.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I am no expert with this type of coin.
Absolutely superb coin, but the fields on both sides look very obviously rough to me. Is that OK? Perhaps an old die?
Could that be the lighting?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm suprised noone has comented on this with a grade or value yet.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6389 Posts |
This coin has an unusual look. The color is odd and the luster appears very diffuse. The lack of strong luster is unexpected given the outstanding sharp strike and near-uncirculated grade. I might suspect you have a counterfeit except I closely compared the details with an example in my collection and everything matches. So, I conclude the coin is a genuine, sharply-struck full head example. I think there is just a touch of wear on the shield, Liberty's head and right knee, and the leading edge of the eagle's right wing, pointing to a details grade of AU-58.
The textured, matte-like surfaces are normal for this date. The color and lack of luster suggest the coin was dipped or otherwise chemically-processed: a classic example of what PCGS would call "altered surface". Value-wise I'd guess anywhere from $150 to $250, with a collector who really wants a strong strike maybe willing to pay more of a premium.
Anybody else have an opinion about this quarter?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with Jaobler on the look of this coin. It looked odd that a coin with pretty much no wear would lack this much luster. It does sort of have that dipped look to it. I will guess AU-58 details. There appears to just be a slight amount of wear on Liberty's right knee.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The detail of this coin is ASTOUNDING!! It is so nice, I immediately thought "Fake". But I agree with Jaobler, that I now think this coin is genuine. Unfortunately, I also agree someone has decided it needed to be cleaned. I also agree that the "rough" texture is the coin's design and not pitting or excessive cleaning. I also would expect the shield (on the shield) to be a bit incomplete (like it is). I'll get back to you with a price I would pay when my head stops spinning!!  |
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United States
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She's a FULL HEAD beauty, but  there is something "off" about her. What is the "asking" price? Edited by oih82w8
04/24/2012 7:33 pm
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New Member
 United States
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Thanks for all your thoughts!
The seller has mentioned that the coin looks much better in hand and that his lighting is horrible. That may have some influence on the off color. Hopefully I will see the coin this weekend.
The seller is asking $250 for the coin.
I usually can get pretty close in grading until the AU-MS level...why is it that an MS-64 Morgan can have scratches in the fields and face and still be MS while this coin is only AU? It seems to be pretty clean except a few nicks.
Thanks again for your help
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Does the seller have a return policy? ...just in case.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I'm suprised noone has comented on this with a grade or value yet. Not much point grading a fake.  , dmat! The "In god" lettering looks too thin, the R in Liberty too long a leg. There are enough people questioning enuf things that I'd want it certified. |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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That's a fair price if genuine, and he should have no problem with you paying for certification, and he pays if it's fake.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks like a real coin that has been doctored from the photos, maybe the head was built up? This is one of the the points John Albanese and Laura Sperber were making, they see a lot of SLQ with a strange look that appear at first to be high grade, also Mercury dimes with recut and formed bands, lasered gold, etc. If it's all goo it looks like a nice high end AU AU55 or AU58 but something about the surface finish, the arms and the head don't sit right with me. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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New Member
United States
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I think that I will just let this coin pass. You have brought up too many questions that have made me a bit uncomfortable with the purchase. Its not worth the hassle to try and have the seller certify...i'll just wait and find another coin.
I appreciate all the collective knowledge here and the willingness to help!
Don
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think that is a good idea - the knowledge base here is incredible and they will guide you on future coins.
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biggfredd: the R in Liberty too long a leg
what is up with the 'R' on the obverse? It looks like it was written in cursive  dmat! |
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Posted 04/23/2012 12:45 am
