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I have access to one, and I heve seen an identical one to that on an American website, it was called by a different model number.
Search the Web for an instrument that suits you. I have seen similar in a Tandy electronics store, Magnification range 1:1 to 1:400. There is no eyepiece, the image presents directly to a computer screen.
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 Posted 05/01/2012  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollectorjj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, 2 GREAT grades, bummer on the last :(
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That label makes no sense. It's an altered mintmark, which makes it fake, yet it's guaranteed genuine?

Especially since the tag says 1916d, not 1916.
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Did you soak it in acetone overnight? That would remove a glued-on mm.
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That label makes no sense. It's an altered mintmark, which makes it fake, yet it's guaranteed genuine?

Especially since the tag says 1916d, not 1916.



I know biggfredd, I am a little confused about that myself.


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Did you soak it in acetone overnight? That would remove a glued-on mm.


No I haven't, I guess it won't hurt anything to try that. It's only a $3.00 dime now.
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I have been thinking about this at work today and have a question. When sets like the one this dime came in are they put together by a company and then sold or are they usually built by a collector?

I wonder if my father-in-law knew that the dime was altered, or the builder put it in and sold it as real. My wife said her father never even owned a loupe.

We had two of theses sets and her brother got one and we got the other. The next time my wife talks to her brother she is going to ask what he sold the set for. He was out of work for a long time and sold his part of the collection to help pay the bills. I hope his dime was real, he needed the money.
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I've never seen this before and am a little confused. If I understand correctly they are saying the coin is real but the mint mark is not. Wouldn't that make the coin fake or as long as everything else is real would the coins value still hold around the range for whatever mint mark was proper for the coin if it can be determined?
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The label is simply the standard label used for detail graded coins. On detail graded coins the coin is guaranteed genuine only and the grade is not guaranteed. So just ignore that part of the label and what do you have? "1916-D 10C Not Encapsulated Altered mintmark"
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Exactly. Forget the label...1916-D
It's not. It's a 1916.
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SOP or not, it's a stupid message to send. "Genuine 1916, altered mm" would make sense, even using that generic sticker. Or take two seconds to cut off the "guaranteed authentic" part.

I can see a coin like that at a flea market or farm auction with "guaranteed authentic by NGC".
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I can see a coin like that at a flea market or farm auction with "guaranteed authentic by NGC".

Yep, that does happen. I've seen it done on ebay as well. PCGS used the letters MS on their bodybag labels to indicate that the coin was a business strike and not a proof, and I have seen PCGS bodybagged coins being sold on ebay with the claim that they were "Genuine Mint State coins certified by PCGS"
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Mrs. Slick and I took a day trip and went to St. Louis a week ago. I took the 1916 dime with me and took it to Scotsman Coins, where a nice young man took one look at the coin and said it was a fake, which I was already sure of, and then explained to me how the mint mark was altered. I always thought there should have been some "marks" on the coin where they turned an "S" mint mark into a "D" mint mark, but he said the "D" was punched into the coin. Now my memory is not the greatest in the world and Mrs. Slick was to busy looking at jewelry to hear what he said, so can someone here please explain to me what he was talking about?
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I am not sure what he was talking about as I have never heard of one being punched into the coin and it being raised. I don't think he was correct in his findings on this. I will await what others say but I have never heard anyone ever describe anything like this and my mind just can't wrap around it until someone can explain how this could have happened this way
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I am pretty sure thats what he said, because I remember him saying it was a "P" mintmark dime and then they would punch the "D" on it. Maybe he said the word punch and meant the way they put the "D" on the "P" dime.

I don't know, I guess its not really important.
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congrats on the ones that made the grade!
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