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Valued Member
United States
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Hi Guys,
I have always taken Photos of all the currency in my collection and put them in an Albums in my computer to keep everything organized as to type and size. Finally had to buy a new Printer / Scanner and thought I may as well get caught up on the newer small size currency in my collection.
Thought why do the photo thing, may as well just scan them right into the computer and be done with it. Everything was going along along just fine with the $ 1.00's and $ 2.00's, then I got to the $ 5.00's and everything more or less stopped, a message came up on my screen saying it was illegal to copy US currency and no matter what I tried I could not scan anything larger than a $ 2.00 bill.
Anyone else have a problem like this ?. Just for kicks I tried scanning an older $ 50.00 bill from 1950 and everything went back to normal, so I'm thinking that it's the strip in the newer bills that is stopping the scan. Does anyone know of a way around this, it's a nice scanner but not that good that it will scan notes good enough to pass off as real.
Regards
Bill Collector
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Valued Member
United States
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? Since when is it illegal to copy U.S. currency? A one sided photocopy is perfectly legal. As far as I know so is a 2 sided one for that matter so long as you don't try to pass it off. How dare your printer/scanner assume you have intent to defraud! Shame on it I say, shame! Lol. What a sneaky little feature they added, scanners seem smarter than most tellers, cashiers, well heck, most people nowadays ;). Not long for Skynet I guess.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hmm, I may try this at home, seeing if $5's and larger will scan. I have had success with $1's and $2's, but I have not tried anything larger (except my lone horse blanket, 1899 Black Eagle).
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Valued Member
United States
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I have the same problem. None of the 2006 bills or later with a denomination of $5 or higher will scan. I have tried everything I can think of but with no success. I just went back to photos.
It might not be illegal to copy 1 side of US currency but even with my 3 year old All-in-one. You can't.
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Valued Member
 United States
486 Posts |
I forgot to say that what I bought was an Epson, thought maybe different ones may be set up different, but if it's some kind of Law I guess I won't matter what brand you buy.
Bill Collector
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's because of the small yellow 05, 10, 20, 50s that form the "Eurion constellation" which serves as a signal to software that it is a banknote being scanned. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EURion_constellationYou can try to bypass this by finding an old-enough version of software. Currently, Photoshop and a few other editing software won't even allow opening of files with that kind of pattern. Even more powerful are Digimarcs, which I know are at least on Swiss Franc notes. There are no rings or visible features, but the scanner simply refuses to scan them in. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Then there should be no problem for me, my paper collection is older "small head" ($5's and up) notes only.
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 United States
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Have you tried to change the size of the original note before you scan it? I mean can you choose to enlarge or make it smaller before you press the scan button? John1  |
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Valued Member
United States
486 Posts |
Well,
I played with it again, odd thing is that I can make copies of a new $ 20., very good copies, on the same machine, but still cant scan the same $ 20. into my computer, in fact I cant even scan the copy of the note into my computer.
Cant understand why it will let me make a very good full size copy but will not let me scan. Seems like it's OK to copy but illegal to scan ?. If they are set up like this to prevent counterfeiting I don't think it's working, the copy and the $ 2.00 note it allow me to scan look about the same quality, both very good.
Regards
Bill Collector
Forgot to answer John1's question, yes I tried changing the size but it didn't do any good, same results.
Bill C.
Edited by The Bill Collector
04/27/2012 5:50 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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I have access to an Epson here at home and I have been able to scan currencies from various countries about a month ago. However, yesterday I tried to scan a Canadian banknote and after many attemps I was only able to scan the reverse of the note and I had to place the note at an angle and put a lot of things on the scanner along with the banknote to, I guess, confuse the anti-counterfeiting mechanism. I have not been able to scan the front of my banknote and I have also tried with Windows XP's wizard and the one in Windows 7 unsuccessfuly. If someone has the solution on how to scan Canadian and American currency with this scanner it would be appreciated if it was posted here.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Go spend a buck or two at a thrift store for a scanner that works.
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Valued Member
United States
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Hi Guys -
First off, I'm a new guy here, so hello to all.
Last year I upgraded to a new scanner as well. I've read all about the issues that the scanners have with the different security settings, including the Eurion patterns of those little zeros and other security methods as well. It turns out that the scanners software is the issue. The software on higher end scanners is geared to recognize a banknote and stop the scanning process, or to have the image altered with dollar signs, etc. over the image.
So I bought a cheaper one, the Kodak ESP 5210 series. It isn't the greatest printer, but the scanner works with all my modern bills. I tested it out on US paper money and also on Euro's, and of course it's okay with other notes as well. My guess is that the scanner and copier were controlled by a different set of code in the software that missed the Bill Collector used, and it sounds like the manufacturers got it completely backwards from it's intended purpose.
That said, when my wife upgraded to Photoshop Elements 9, I had some issues. It will work with everything but the modern US $50. So I have to use older software for editing newer bills.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That is really interesting to hear. Thanks for sharing it. Are you going to create some unique notes then?  |
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New Member
United States
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I had the same problem when I tried to scan a series 2006 $5 bill and my printer/scanner is over 3 years old but I guess the new updates from the new security measures they have now for the currency kicked in. It really stinks beacuse I had to take pictures instead which are not as crisp and clear as a scan is. The good thing is that it doesn't happen on the $1 bills or like you mentioned the older bills. Message said something about unauthorized to prevent counterfit and dais that the scan was cancelled and had a link to check the new rule about scanning new currency.
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Pillar of the Community
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Try using an imported foreign scanner ;)
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