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1981-D Jefferson 5c RPM

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 Posted 05/14/2012  1:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ilikeikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Found this in a bank roll last week...I see a Coneca Listing for an 81-D RPM, north..RPM-OO1...just wanted to confirm(Lee Gong, noted error coin expert examined this last week at our monthly coin club meeting, and, in his opinion, said it' most likely is the D/D)...it also looks like a possible P under the D, thus, an OMM, but, I see no listing for that. There is an old thread on Cointalk about the latter possibilty, but, I saw no follow-through, and, Coneca OMM listing.
http://www.cointalk.com/t4132/

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Cal

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 Posted 05/14/2012  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chzman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see it, nice one!
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 Posted 05/14/2012  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tatt2ed13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find .

I can see what you mean about the D over P , Looks like like one there more then another "D" to my eye ..

Again , nice find.. I'm curious what some of the seasoned nickel guys may think ..

Phil \m/
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 Posted 05/14/2012  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can email a copy of the photo to either Ken Potter or Dr. Wiles and see what they say? It does look like another mintmark underneath. Whether it is a P or a D, I can't tell.
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I think I'll mail it to Dr. Wiles...I don't like to send him emails on errors, he's too busy, and,were not "close" enough for me to feel comfortable doing that...and, it really needs to be seen in hand, one of those things..I agree TATT2, there may be more than 1 D---looks like a tilted D, heading West, with right curve running down the middle of the existing D, and, the North D, which if a P would be incredible.(my hunch why a possible P is the size of the North mark, it's so small, compared to 1980, 81-89 D mintmarks, but, I'm no expert---Wiles will know.
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 Posted 05/14/2012  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say it's a D over a P. Really nice find!
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I see D over P also ! Nice one !
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 Posted 05/14/2012  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add randy0050 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW !
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 Posted 05/15/2012  03:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Damaged. The coin to a hit from another coin.
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 Posted 05/15/2012  06:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That looks like damage at the bottom of the D but at the top of the D looks like an OMM.
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please keep us updated either way!
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GREAT NEWS from Dr. Wiles...packet returned today.."1981-D RPM-OO1, stage A, EDS, Nice! Only second one reported."
Makes my day, bigtime...since so many nickels have crossed the paths of variety hunters, and just 2 known makes me think this was probably a 1-die coin situation, for whatever reason...mint worker probably spotted the RPM, pulled the die, and, polished it out, leaving an unknown few to be put into circulation...just my hunch.
My lucky day..in a bank roll of nickels, I nabbed a 2005 D WDDR-001 Business Strike Ocean in View...took more than a year to find another one of these.
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 Posted 06/01/2012  05:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats on your find, it's very nice. Now I have to keep an eye out for one.
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I vaguely remember sometime during a Morgan dollar Variety search, information that examples of(whatever I was hunting for, I cann't recall), the VAM would have been found in lower grades only, then, the mint polished out the die, changing the look...I suspect this may be the case here...since thousands of BU rolls of 1981-D coins have been examined over the last 31 years, and, to my knowledge, no mint state example exists, this RPM may only be found in circulated coinage..just my "2-cents" worth...
Speaking of dies, I just got my June CoinWorld Magazine, and was reading about the 75th anniversary of the San Francisco Mint, and, an incredible inside-look article(and GREAT PICTURES) of the production of the Silver Eagle Proof Dies....wow...a HECK of a lot more complicated than I ever knew...fascinating read....as stated earlier, if any CCF members in the S.F. Bay Area want to hook up, and go over to the S.F. Mint for a tour, I'd love to go..never been down there.
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 Posted 06/01/2012  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is not a RPM. A RPM is a D/D. This is a OMM. D/P. I see that now. All I could see at first was the coin contact at the bottom. So many times this is usually all that is going on. With the poor color and not mention in the description (or I missed it) I spotted the obvious. Sorry.
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 Posted 06/01/2012  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilikeikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop..Dr. Wiles attributed this as RPM-OO1...I can email him, and ask him why he de-bunked the OMM aspect, if you wish.
Cal
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