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Is this a very worn 2004 P or a very struck through Greaser? I'm leaning toward the Struck Through Grease due to its weight. Location appears to be same vicinity of obverse and reverse. Southwest to Northeast on the obverse.... That tells me the grease may have been on the planchet vs the die, right? Or does the obv and rev die strike at the same time? Is that possible is the striking process? Left nickel is 4.97 g.......... Right nickel is normal 5.00 g        Thanks for your opinions |
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Struck through grease. The rim is intact.
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Yep. LOTS of grease on that die.
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I think it is significant in that once again ( to my objections ) IN GOD WE TRUST is missing and therefore, I would give it a Godless nickname and keep it. I prefer the Motto remain but this is a neat find. I wish I could find one like it as there must be others from the same die pair out there.
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significant in that once again TNG - significant its missing or significant grease strike? Quote:
( to my objections ) IN GOD WE TRUST is missing Conspiracy Theory?  You guys have been collectors longer than I have and seen much more than I, (I'm calling you more experienced, not older,  ) Thanks all, but let me bounce some questions off ya to try to understand this particular Greaser, Godless Nickel... 1) Usually I see struck coins from a greased filled die on one side only, is it very common to be so significant on one side and clear evidence on the other side? 2) On single sided examples wouldn't the grease most likely be on the die? 3) If found on both sides, does it make sense the grease might have been on the planchet rather than two separate dies? I know, we will never know what came first, the chicken or the egg. 4) I haven't seen many of these in person this severe, or is it all that severe? Thanks again  |
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I always thought it was grease and metallic particles and general grime gets built up on the dies. I gets packed so hard that the design is filled on the dies. I don't know about grease on the planchets, I always thought it was on the dies. I could be wrong. I think your coin has a large area filled but better yet, I like where and how it is filled which makes it more interesting to me. I think it is significant for both reasons. Large Grease Filled Die and that it covered the IN GOD WE TRUST. In the history of US coinage and currency notes, this has been an issue from the start. http://www.treasury.gov/about/educa...e-trust.aspxThere is always objection on subjects like this. You could call this the atheist nickel. I must again, without any provocation, state that I find your nickel very interesting but personally, I prefer that the motto remains. It does not make me right or wrong, to each his/her own. Edited by TNG
05/21/2012 10:00 pm
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Thanks TNG, you're right about the objections, but certainly not me. Quote:
without any provocation None taken, I know you, and all of us, try to be PC and always have been in my book. Quote:
I prefer that the motto remains  Thanks for more discussion on the grease.  |
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Not nit picking but once again I want to state that the term
"grease filled" seems to be used 99% of the time when in reference to this nickels anomaly. I use the term "debris filled". There are many types of debris that could come in contact with the die/dies. Actual grease could well indeed be the culprit but not always. Anyway, this is still neither not an error or any variety for sure. A debris filled die can be
the obv., rev., or both. They still look neat anyway. I actually have found lincolns with the original remnants of the debris still present on the coin itself in the area of the filled die. The pressure of the strike actually caused
the debris to be adhered to the coins surface somehow and stay there even in the long run.
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This is interesting because I have a 2004 nickel that looks exactly like yours. I'll have to post a picture of it soon.
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mitchhailey: This is interesting because I have a 2004 nickel that looks exactly like yours. I'll have to post a picture of it soon. See ... I thought that there might be others. I have a few BU rolls of 2004 P nickels with the Peace theme and am tempted to open them. If I see Mitch's picture, I probably will. |
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I'll post mine later today, similar to this....searching nickel rolls for full-steps and errors...few and far between..best find is a 1981 RPM D/D sent to Dr. Wiles for attribution....I need a good source for BU rolls that are unsearched(good luck)...anyone care to share their source, feel free(I know sharing THIS would be less for YOU, but, thought I'd ask)...most ebay sales by dealers are searched...some private family sales of like "Uncle Joe's" collection sometimes can pay off from ebay, but, some seller's add that to boost bids, so, gotta be careful there too...it's a crap shoot, somedays the coin Gods are on your side, other days not...the hunt is what keeps me going. I buy them at the banks for the most part..you never know when some kid rolls up dad's collection, and trades it in for Red Bull money! GCG |
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I bought all my unc rolls on ebay at well above face. |
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Nice "Struck Through Error" there Mitch! |
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Nice, both of em. Oh I guess I'll be opening up dem rolls. |
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