1883 O With A Lot Of Double On Reverse

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GR58 Bedrock of the Community United States 11951 Posts	Posted 07/13/2012 12:04 am Wife is out of town for a week .. so I get to spend more time with more coins. I pulled this out of my box of dollars. I am not sure my poor ability to take pictures will show all that I see in hand. The doubling "in hand" shows on mint mark, most letters in "ONE DOLLAR" and "AMERICA" also on wreath near bow. There is also die clash at "in" and right of eagle Just looking at it again there is doubling in most of the reverse letters, more prominent at bottom of coin. Try to compare on VAM world, it is something like VAM 24 Had to edit .. I had VAM 28 when I was looking at VAM 24 Edited by GR58 07/13/2012 01:25 am Report this Post to the Staff

aladinslamp Pillar of the Community United States 3076 Posts	Posted 07/13/2012 01:13 am 1883-0 has a tremendous variance for date and mint mark placement... FOREMOST is the pictures true "90 degree alignment" of the mint mark to the "ONE DOLLAR" words on the reverse...Vam World 101 speaks of this. AND many an attribution picture on VAM World is NOT alingned...(sory spelling)..THE purpose of alignment is...to insure weather a mint mark is truely high/low, set left or right..ECT... May take photo's where the coin is rotated and very hard to truely SAY if it is left right up or down, ect... your photo is one great example where as, its rotated, ALSO within the mint mark are most often die filings marks ect. which will PIN POINT its VAM designation to very few possibillities...Lets get a STRAIGHT on View and a close up of whats inside the "O" mint mark..G Report this Post to the Staff
GR58 Bedrock of the Community United States 11951 Posts	Posted 07/13/2012 01:21 am You are right .. the coin is not a straight on 90 degree angle. I think I will have to get a real photo set up, instead of leaning it on a post of my desk. And maybe a better lens for my camera. Report this Post to the Staff
aladinslamp Pillar of the Community United States 3076 Posts	Posted 07/14/2012 04:50 am your camera is just fine as are the pic's... just get them perpendicular so one can see if its left or right or up or down.. I think its slightly left, but. lets see...one must remember, the date placement and the mint mark placement, are the key factors Basic 101 attributions for determining any VAM. I must emphasize that!It keeps us from guessing...G Report this Post to the Staff
GR58 Bedrock of the Community United States 11951 Posts	Posted 07/14/2012 2:20 pm G thank you very much for your advice I set up my tripod and think I am getting a 90 degree photo of the coin I feel I am still not picking up how much this coin is doubled. Report this Post to the Staff
aladinslamp Pillar of the Community United States 3076 Posts	Posted 07/15/2012 01:26 am just a hunch here, try checking inside the "O" mint mark and see if you can see a die scratch in the bottom of the "O" then check VAM World's VAM 21A descriptions and pictures to see if this is your coin...G Report this Post to the Staff
GR58 Bedrock of the Community United States 11951 Posts	Posted 07/15/2012 3:16 pm G .. that scratch seems really close to this one .. I think the scratch on this coin continues up onto the "O" more. and the MM seems doubled or repunched .. I tried taking more pictures This coin does not have the scratch on the Eagles left wing that the VAM 21A mentions, but it does say it might not have it. What my pictures are not picking up very well is all the doubling this coin has on the reverse. A lot like the VAM 24, but not exactly .. but then, the coin they have pictured has more wear. I will try to post some pictures where the doubling does show in the pictures. In this next one the berry above the "O" show doubling as well and the leaf above the "E" In this pic Dollar is very doubled very much so along the bottom of "OLLAR" but other parts of the letters too. Do they repunch letters also? This pic also shows more of the lower part of the leaves, on the wreath doubled Again pic does not show it well, but this one does show some of the Doubling in AMERICA. Report this Post to the Staff
aladinslamp Pillar of the Community United States 3076 Posts	Posted 07/22/2012 12:44 am The doubling,you are seeing is Machine Doubling, true doubling as seen in attributions 101 guide..check out that section explains a tremedous amount of info Report this Post to the Staff
GR58 Bedrock of the Community United States 11951 Posts	Posted 07/22/2012 11:42 am Quote: The doubling,you are seeing is Machine Doubling, true doubling as seen in attributions 101 guide..check out that section explains a tremedous amount of info Thank you again .. I think I will have to read that guide a few times, to pick up all that information. Now I am back to your suggestion of a VAM 21A ... but with a lot of Strike Doubling. Report this Post to the Staff
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