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Hi all, Here are some 1944 penny's I have now got. I have a basic understanding on how to grade KGV (pearls and the like) but what should you look for in KGVI?   Any help most appreciated. Thanks Michael. |
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The hair I think. In another recent thread someone was talking about the detail of the part.
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On the obverse the the gings ear, sideburns and hair are the points that wear first. These areas can often be weakly struck which makes it hard. Many fully lustrous coins lack detail around the ear and hair but are clearly UNC. In my opinion KGVI coins are the hardest coin to grade and I would suspect this is shared by a few people.
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Thanks you Mr T and enworb, I guess the key is to know what ware out first in the detail. Looking at the hair on my 1944's I can see only 1 stand out for the hair. (cannot see it on the picture I posted at a good scan is too large to post.
Hair then ear as a guide then. For QEII the leafs in the hair would be the first to go?
Also does the reverse play into the grade? E.g. A really good KGVI and bad Roo?
Thanks.
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The wear is usually fairly obvious just below the part in his hair.
Tomorrow i'll post a pic of an UNC coin so you can compare.
Edited by appleangel07
07/24/2012 08:54 am
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I look straight to the sideburns on KGVI, then the hair. Like I said often theyre weakly struck. Its good to closely look at that region with a loupe and try and determine if the lack of detail is due to strike or wear.
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Ok you got me  - I do not see any sidebars on any KGVI coins I have. Here is the best 1944 (that I think is anyway)  |
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Yours has too much wear to see the sideburns. Wait for AA's photos which if its struck up well should show them. By sideburns I mean the little bit of hair to the left of the ear.
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Well that's a bugger - Looked though all my KGVI (about 30 coins) and all look clean shared! :(
Cannot wait to see a UNC from AA!
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Unfortunately that coin looks like it has been harshly cleaned,you can see there is virtually no detail in the hair below the part,the top of the ear has a lot of wear & the flat spot on the cheek & eye brow. I've been messin with your pic & I drew red lines,the areas inside where wear shows most.  The tip of his nose looks like it has wear too. |
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Thanks AA! Ok these look MUSH harder to get an idea of the grade for a noob then a KGV. Cleaning was not done by me! So I guess that makes these somewhat worthless :( Cleaning I know also makes them next to worthless...... Of well.
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Ohhh, Thanks AA, NOW I can see what you and enworb mean - the hair licking up to the left above the ear? think this is the best I have......  Again thanks for your help. |
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Although this one seems to have some crud it is a much better example thab the previous one. There is plenty of detail in the hair and the sideburns are quite strong. Althoughh its hard from a scan I would say VF-gVF for that obverse.
You need to see a lot of KGVI coins to work out what is strike and what is wear. Its something I'm not overly confident, especially not from scans. Something I have noticed though is that silver coins are generally easier to grade from photos for the KGVI obverse.
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For QEII the leafs in the hair would be the first to go? I'm not sure where the wear tends to happen but I always look at the wreath. |
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Posted 07/24/2012 08:27 am
