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kdgtfg New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 08/04/2012 3:53 pm Hi Everyone, New poster here (and relatively new collector). I have become very interested in European Thalers of late, and finally jumped in with my first purchase (Bavaria 1771). My question relates to the silver content of this coin as well as for other Thalers. I noticed that the World Coins catalogs as well as the "go to" websites, including Numista.com, do not provide the fineness and/or the actual silver weight. Any direction as to a reliable source of this for Thalers would be greatly appreciated. Also, is there an online or even print journal for collectors of European coins? Thanks! Report this Post to the Staff

Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2869 Posts	Posted 08/05/2012 04:33 am I primarily collect thalers myself at the moment. I searched for but didn't find any dedicated forums in English but I think some of the German sites have extensive sections on them. If you speak German that would be your best bet. For printed material, Krause gives a general grounding, Germany (Deutsche Munzen 800-2001 By Weege gives more or less the same details but sometimes gives a bit extra. The gold standard is of course the various volumes of Davenport catalogues, though I don't have them at present and they are quite pricy when they do appear on the market. My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
kdgtfg New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 08/05/2012 09:24 am Thanks Baccchus. I do read German, but was still unable to find info specific to the Bavaria 1771 Thaler (online). Thanks for the Davenport suggestion. I will be on the lookout for them. Risking some serious over-generalization, is it safe to assume that most Thalers from the 16th-19th century are at least .900 fineness or so? Thanks much! Report this Post to the Staff
vb3347 Valued Member United States 230 Posts	Posted 08/05/2012 12:33 pm I was able to find out that Bavarian Thalers from 1778 through the 1830s were of .833 fineness before they became .900. Also, a lot of other (if not most) 18th century Thalers were .833, along with some .750. .900 Thalers only became popular in the mid-19th century. Report this Post to the Staff
kdgtfg New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 08/05/2012 1:04 pm Thanks vb3347. That's great information. I'm curious as to what collectors of European coins read to stay current and involved. The hobby seems dominated by reference rather than historical, news, or otherwise robust pieces. Is this a fair assessment? Any suggestions for breaking out of this mold? I feel like I've reached the end of the internet trying to satiate my desire to learn about Thalers... Report this Post to the Staff
Harpagon Coins New Member Italy 26 Posts	Posted 12/18/2016 09:58 am If you're enthusiastic for Talers, which I'm guessing you are. The best source I found at least for post 19th Century is the AKS German Catalogue. They have the breakdown of fineness, correct naming conventions all presented in a nice table at the beginning of every city/state section. As for pre-19th Century, go for Davenport! Even though not readily available, they're more common than you'd think. Just have to look a little harder. Report this Post to the Staff
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