1879 S Morgan PMD Or Something More

It's a VF coin that has been harshly cleaned.

you are correct the 7 has PMD..one thing to remember in general for vamming, is the date and mint mark position to start with and then any doubling and then clashing features to start your quest...G

All Morgans and Peace dollars are a VAM, it is just figuring out which one each of them are that can be the hard part. It may not even have a number assigned to the die pairing yet but if all of the die pairs were assigned a number (which may never happen because of the enormous amounts of dies that were used throughout the years) then every Morgan and Peace dollar would have a VAM#

while the date and mint mark are the usual suspects of abnormalities, one must remember that the entire coin is prevelant to errors or attributions...For those of you who don't know..review the VAM worlds attribution 101 guide which explains all of the areas attributes are known for...Its not just the date or mint mark...

Thanks Dad Vams are a curious breed...most think that
one needs the obvious big time clashes and doubling let you know if you have something or not.....
This is not so..........take 1879-0
for example.....there are many of the VAM 30 to 36 that have DESCRETE abnormalities, and few known that allow
them the R6 value of known population,,,,,, FEW known,,,
infact they don't even post the known population of these types while they gather there own coins to see if they have of them......such as it is with many years that have not been over studied.....and many years just have not have had the interest to warrant there complete studies, but those guys are truely doing there best at vamworld to do just that...
Back to your coin in the post.....honesttly its not in focus enough to delve into the true possibllities of this possible VAM....while the OBV photo looks ok the close up
appears to be a slant date...opticle illusion...there...
angle of the camera to the coin can be misleading,as its view can be straight above or to the side of the coin allowing a miss-representation of the correct date position or mint mark position...a very common error, where the designation of any VAM
"begins with its proper VIEW centered withe coin and the centering of the camera".....see "coin photography" section
which is most helpful in these reguards
Mind you this section can be "anal" BUT its the best way to understand "HOW" to take a proper picture...........
most here post a pic and want to know what one thinks... I one looks at the ceiling lamp from below it looks round....yet get 6 foot away........it looks like an egg.... this is multiplied many times with the camera even at close ranges......
And these are the photo's that we here look at...
Most don't look at the slightly out of focus or off camera view...and freely give there, grading results.....
MY MAIN POINT HERE is there would not be such
WIDE ideas of perception "OR GRADE GUESSES" if everyone took the same proceedures and angles in there snap shots....
My comment is not to say you must upgrade you cameras, but to use the forum and its knowledge to get the best photo's with what ever you have.....
its not about money, its about using what you have with the correct angles to take a true pic of what you want to present to this forum.........VAMS are especially important to these ideas....even if you don't have the best camera its not as important as the image you present is true to positon so we can really see what you have in hand...
Gene