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Can you see a S mint mark under the date there is not a mint mark stamped but when you look it has a ghost image my photo does not do this image justice when you look at it in person there is clearly a S minton this pennie but it is only a ghost image is there such a coin
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Many times our eyes play tricks w/ us... and I think this is one of those times. I do see something that "looks" like an S, but I think it's just imperfections in the coin's surface. There is also something above the 6 as well.
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seperate.

Just in case you do not have one or are unaware of it, one can purchase USB cameras for under $ 30 similar to the one featured here at the following CCF thread,

https://goccf.com/t/88598&whichpage=2

that should assist to further clarify any lingering suspicions of date/mint mark abnormalities.

If you should decide to acquire one of these units, please re-post your picture focusing in on the area in question using higher magnification.

Personally, I hesitate purchasing more expensive digital equipment compared to the above USB camera since the main photographic objectives can be successfully attained once the shooting and lighting parameters are better defined and implemented according to each one's personal tastes.

fyi,
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I don't think there will be an "s" on THIS coin.
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i can put a light directly shining down on this penny and clearly see a S mint mark and just to make sure that I was not crazy I had 5 other people look at it each one said that they could see the S mint mark if you can download this pic go to magnifier in accessiabilitys in windows and use invert colors a dark S will appear is there such a thing as a ghost mint mark and if there is are those coins worth anything?
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I see an "S"...not saying it was minted with it...but I definitely see something there
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There are known "ghost" mint marks but not for 1965. They are from the 1990's late in that decade. Your coin does have what appears to be an S mint mark but it is an illusion not an actual mint mark, sorry.
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yes I see the s
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Yep,I agree that an s can be seen on your coin. But if that is a mint mark is separate question.
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I see an S but it looks larger than what the size of the mint marks were for the cents. No cent had an S mint mark after 1954 so it is highly unlikely that it was a leftover die from a previous year. It wasn't until 1968 that an S mint mark was used on the cents and then they were only on proof dies. If it were the remnant of a mint mark and was removed there should be a depression surrounding the S on the die which would translate to a raised area on the coin. It appears to be flat on your coin in the picture.

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nope dont see it
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This thread ... IMHO ... has gone well beyond the length needed for the CCF experts to advise the valued new collector of the facts ...

This is a 1965 LMC minted at an unknown mint ... mint marks were not used that year ... and for sure there are zero 1965-S LMC out there.

The imagined "S" on your coin might be there in some form ... but it is either an artifact of some surface disturbance ... or placed there by someone just for fun.

This is NOT a 1965-S LMC.

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No cent had an S mint mark after 1954 so it is highly unlikely that it was a leftover die from a previous year. It wasn't until 1968 that an S mint mark was used on the cents and then they were only on proof dies.


I agree that there is no way this coin would have an "S" because the San Francisco mint was not in operation in 1965.

But I am sure I have some 1955 S Lincoln cents. With out going and looking it up, I think the San Francisco mint did start making coins again in 1968, there were some business strikes cents up to 1974. (let's not forget the 1970 S small date, one of the Memorial cent keys)
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During the coin shortage in the 1960's the San Francisco mint was reopened and was minting cents. I am not certain if they started in 1965 but it was definitely before 1968 when mintmarks started appearing again. So this coin "could" have been made in San Francisco. But I agree with Nickelsearcher. There have never been any 1965-S cents reported before and this is highly unlikely to be the first.

It sure does look like an S mintmark (ghost of course).
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And someone filed it off? Nah.

I see the "ghost" 's' in your image too, but with Dave H. Imperfections in the coin's surface.

Anyone up for some Rorschach tests?
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