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New Member
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I have a question about the new Washington dollar. A friend of mine bid on a coin that was listed as an error on ebay. The coin was advertised as an error because the text on the edge was upside down when looking at Washington's head on the top. I've just gotten a roll of 25 from my bank have some right side up and others "upside down." I assume that it doesn't matter the text orientation on a circulating coin. I'm trying to help my friend dispute the ebay seller. Does anyone know of anything I can reference so he can argue with the sellers? |
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Valued Member
United States
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That is a common scam, a nut here is trying to sell the same stuff for $50, for one coin. The only known error on these is where they do not have the rim lettering.
Coinmaniac
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He won't gain anything by arguing with the seller, anyways. They know it's not an error, too.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You can find this info I believe on the mint website. However, this may help you. From the mint: quote:
These coins will feature edge-incused inscriptions of the year of minting or issuance, "E Pluribus Unum," "In God We Trust" and the mint mark. Due to the minting process used on the circulating coins, the edge-incused inscription positions will vary with each coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ya know, after reading my own post it made me think. This comment specifically states "circulating coins".
Has anyone read whether or not there will be variation with the proofs?
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Valued Member
United States
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The lettering on the proof dollars will always be up. The reason being that the lettering for the proof coins will be in the collar and stamped at the same time as the rest of the design. For the circulation coins the edge lettering is rolled on in a seperate process. If your looking for a reference.....Numismatic News December 26th, Front page article titled "Letters on Proofs always Up"
",on proofs, the tops of the letters and numerals on the edge will always read correctly with the presidential "heads" side up.
On circulation strikes,the edge lettering is rolled into the edge after striking of the face designs, so the tops of letters could be oriented toward either side of the coin. Also, on these strikes the edge inscription could be rotated to appear at any point around the edge."
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Valued Member
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Heres more to read on the matter. The Presidential dollars Feature Edge Lettering In keeping with Congress' desire to have more prominent imagery on the new dollar coins, the Presidential Golden Dollars have incused (recessed) lettering around the edges of the coin. The inscriptions "In God We Trust" and "E Pluribus Unum" are spelled out around the edge, in addition to the date of minting and the mintmark. The edge lettering is being applied randomly with regard to whether it faces up or down on the business strike coins, after the coins are struck. The business strike coins are fed through a vaccuum-like device that sucks them up into the edge lettering prep machine, which lines them up in whichever way the coins happen to enter the process (heads up or down.) Then the coins roll through a device that inscribes the edge lettering. It is expected that in the end, heads-up edge lettering should be about equal in number to coins which receive "tails-up" edge lettering. The edge lettering for the proof coins is being done with a specially-designed three-part collar that will always (hopefully) ensure that the edge lettering faces upward. This process is different than for the business strike coins, and will produce much higher quality incused edge lettering on the Proof coins. U.S. circulating coins hadn't had edge lettering in several decades before now, so it is expected to cause a lot of interest now that edge lettering has resumed. So much interest, in fact, that the U.S. Mint has redesigned the packaging for its various Mint Sets and Proof Sets so people can see the edges of the coins through the holders. I also wouldn't be surprised to see lots of errors emerging as the Mint adjusts to this process after such a long absence http://coins.about.com/od/uscoins/a...nts_coin.htm |
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Thanks Dock. I hope you know that it was not my intention of you doing the research for me. Just didn't know if anyone knew this off the top of their head's.
Regardless, thanks for the info. I would assume the true errors will be a proof with lettering reversed. can't wait to see one of those. Although by your post, it see that as being much harder to do if it's already in the collar!!! HMMMMM
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United States
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Any on have any ideas on the number of Washington's that were released without rim stamping?
rggoodie
aka Richard
"catch em doing something right"
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Valued Member
United States
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The current figure thats being kicked around is 50,000.
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New Member
 United States
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Thanks, everyone. I went to the US Mint site and got the appropriate info. Now we'll try arguing with PayPal...don't think we'll get anywhere, but I guess it's worth a try.
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Pillar of the Community
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United States
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Paypal might work but will take time, I hope your friend did not pay too much for this.
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Posted 03/08/2007 8:11 pm
