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Is This 1883 Struck Through Grease?!?!

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Is this 1883 Liberty V struck through the grease? It has excellent details except for the front of the hair and the "I" in liberty on the front and then from under the "V" on back into "Pluribus" on the back..? I can see die cracks on the letters and it looks to be AU-BU so I can't figure out why 2 spots are "worn down" and that leads me to believe Struck Through Grease. Any ideas?!?!

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you only needed one thread
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I only made one thread. The other was to get it graded.
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It looks like a weak strike to me. It's not really my series, but I believe the stars on the obverse for this year are usually stronger. I could be totally wrong though.
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Late die state.
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Yeah, I agree with the late die state. There are many die cracks on both sides of the coin; dies were certainly on their last leg!
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I know being of a late die state accounts for die flow lines and die cracks / chips, but I've never heard of it being associated with weak design elements, especially the central design. Is this common for the series and other classic coinage?
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Here's the reverse on my 1883 with cents. It would probably grade similarly to yours and also has the same late die state deterioration. This series is known for less than stellar strikes.

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It was caused by a weak strike, most likely done to prolong the life of dies that were already showing significant cracking. The coronet on the obverse and the ears of corn on the reverse are the two points of highest relief on the coin and would be the two points most affected by a weak strike. The obverse stars are also flat with only a couple of them showing any separation at all.
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