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5 Cent Nickel Collection MS 65+

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I would like to start a collection for myself -- a collection of post 1992 collection of nickels.

First of all, is there a place on the ICCS website to see their best nickels ever graded? In other words, a chart that shows the best examples of nickels ever graded?

Second, It might be difficult to find MS 65 nickels from coin roll hunting for 2000P. On the J&M website, they have nickels in all grades. Does anyone have an idea of how their coins were graded? Are they slabbed or are they just graded by instore emplyees?

I pulled some very fresh nickels from coin roll hunting yesterday. I could not witness any scratches or evidence of handling without a strong microscope. No wear and must be MS 65+. If there's somewhere to find the best examples of nickles ever graded, it would be great for my curiosity.

Thanks!
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The J&M website is more of a reference guide...they dont have many of the grades listed. My experiance with them is they do in store grading, but I have only bought a few from them so I'm not sure about all their inventory. Its kind of a hasal ordering from them...their customer service is not the best and they are slow at getting back to you if they get back at all. I hate to send you to my competitor but Colonial Acres is a good place to buy
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What do you mean by your competitor?
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Nice little site rmc you need to add some pics :) nice to see another carpenter/cabinetmaker here :)
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Thanks DvntMstr
Im working on getting everything listed...im about half way there. ALOT of work. I agree, pictures are coming.

I bust up my hand and have had to have several rounds of surgery on hand and wrist so the cabinet making is on hold til I heel up...gives me time to build my site.

@ Petersun Not so much my competitor...they are far more superior than little old me.
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@rmc, what is your website?
Any suggestions on building a collection like this?
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Im not aloud to post it...but its in my profile.
As far as I know, ICCS does not have a website but I'm sure there is some sort of population report out there. Are you looking to build a ICCS collection of only top grades? Colonial Acres offers alot of ICCS coins.
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ICCS will sell you a population report for about $30. You might be able to get one off ebay also--someone usually lists them at least when they first come out. I like to keep my old ones to see how populations are trending, but perhaps others would be willing to part with an older one.

I think CCCS has an online population report.
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People from ebay or Colonial Acres say that their coins are the highest graded. Did they get this information from the population report? Is there another way to know about this?
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1925 MS65 $13,000 (260,000 nickels)

i could only imagine the look on my wife's face if I brought that home
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I would think that it would be almost impossible to find MS65 coins from mint issued rolls from ANY country.

The reason for this is that I have never seen a perfect coin from a mint roll issued for circulation. They all have a least some minor problem, the most common of these being bag marks. They are ejected from the high speed presses and drop from some height onto a pile. The coins in the pile are handled in bulk, where they jingle against each other, before being mechanically rolled.

MS65 coins most certainly do exist, but they are almost certainly from fresh dies and specially and individually extracted from the press, immediately after striking. Such coins are sold to collectors, packaged and marketed by the mints as 'uncirculated', at a premium price, that is many multiples of their face value.

Such 'mint sets' of Australian coins can be valued anywhere from $30 to over $100 or more on the numismatic aftermarket.

Probably the best thing to do is just order a mint set directly from the Mint, or for issued mint sets of previous years, from a dealer. With Australian coins the only way to obtain a MS65 coins for some years is via a mint set, because some coins have not been struck or issued circulation for those years.
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I would think that it would be almost impossible to find MS65 coins from mint issued rolls from ANY country.

The reason for this is that I have never seen a perfect coin from a mint roll issued for circulation. They all have a least some minor problem, the most common of these being bag marks. They are ejected from the high speed presses and drop from some height onto a pile. The coins in the pile are handled in bulk, where they jingle against each other, before being mechanically rolled.

MS65 coins most certainly do exist, but they are almost certainly from fresh dies and specially and individually extracted from the press, immediately after striking. Such coins are sold to collectors, packaged and marketed by the mints as 'uncirculated', at a premium price, that is many multiples of their face value.


You are confusing MS65 with MS70.
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I would think that it would be almost impossible to find MS65 coins from mint issued rolls from ANY country.


Not that I personally have experience (yet) with MS-65+ grading, but in this thread SPP mentions certifying MS-67 coins from mint rolls:

https://goccf.com/t/129322&whichpage=1

Finding MS-65 coins in customer wrapped rolls though? Possible I guess, although the chances of a coin remaining uncirculated after circulating go down quickly
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MS-65 grade does not mean the coin is perfect. I have found MS-66 coins from mint rolls of nickel 50-cent coins (went through an entire mint box, to find it), as an example of larger coins. MS-66 is pretty tough grade for 5-cent coins, but MS-67 is fairly easy to find with 1-cent and 10-cent strikes. Sometimes, you just have to get lucky, and find a roll where a coin maybe landed on its edge in the hopper and was not banged by subsequently struck coins... some years are much tougher than others.

A quick search on ebay can pretty much tell you which years are common for MS-65 grades and which years are tough. Anyone notice the 1970 ICCS MS-66 that just sold on ebay? Hammer was just north of $400!
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Does ICCS give MS 67 or 68 for circulation coins?
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I have seen MS-67 ICCS circulation coins. Someone else can probably confirm/deny the existence of MS-68.
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