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There is no good answer to that, because anyone's definition of MS69 includes the term "fully struck." If it ain't FH, it ain't "fully struck." That term encompasses what is possible with the issue, not what is possible with that specific die or press setting.
I don't care how nice it is. It's not a 69. You start judging against "perfection" at 67.
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Agree with dave its over graded. The bit about it being the only 69 SLQ should be a tip off. The only 69 should be a no doubter, this is not
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What does Full Head mean? The top of Liberty's head fully struck? I'm no Standing quarter collector, but I see some other areas of weakness. Liberty's arm and certainly the shield seem incomplete. |
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Full Head. Full Shield!
Grading is subjective, so one say 67 another say 66 and when a coin gets enlarge enough, that MS 67 looks more like a 65.
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It's not a -69, but this SLQ is still an amazing coin.
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Right or wrong the toning got the extra grading points. The strike is not bad but I have seen a lot better for the 1919 date. This needs a better inner shield, all ten toes, the sash buttons and line between them, and a full head to be a full strike.
This coin is very nice but to me it is not a 67 let alone a 69.
Have a good day , Gary
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It certainly is nice, I guess the ring toning would be the result of an album? I would think that any SLQ with a grade of MS68 or higher (very rare) SHOULD have a without a doubt, 100% Full Head. Here are the Full Head Images from "Tips From the Grading Room" in the PCGS Library; (sorry the images are this small on their website) (1916)  (1917 Type I)  (1917-1930 Type II)  http://www.pcgs.com/Articles/Detail/6283Edited by oih82w8
09/17/2012 08:55 am
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That is still a gorgeous coin and I love the natural toning on it.
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Right or wrong the toning got the extra grading points. Ill never understand that. If anything blast white should get extra points for being like when its was made, not the toning which will eventually turn all black as you can see on the edges |
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Do you need to specify that you're going for FH when you submit with NGC?
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doesn't sound like it Quote:After the graders have arrived at a number, Standing Liberty quarters must be further evaluated to determine whether enough detail is present in the features of Liberty's head to assign the supplemental designation FH for "full head." The majority of 1916 quarters, as well as many Type 2 and 3 pieces, show only a silhouette of Liberty's profile, lacking the features of hair and face. Since full head quarters are highly prized by both type collectors and series specialists, grading services such as NGC must distinguish this feature, listing separate population figures for each date/mint combination with and without the FH designation. |
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basebal21, where did this tidbit come from that mentions Type 3 (1925-30 recessed date)?  Edited by oih82w8
09/17/2012 1:00 pm
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Wow, thanks for the photos and the info. I've learned a lot about the Standing Libertys. Maybe I'll run over to the deposit box and check out the ones I have.
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One of two MS69s by NGC but does not warrant a Full Head? 
Posted 09/16/2012 11:51 pm
