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Bullion Of No Numismatic Value

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Hello,

Im looking to purchase 1 ounce of silver with absolutely no numismatic value (perhaps silver shot?). Does anyone know a good cheap way to do this?

thanks.
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 Posted 11/26/2012  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakedacc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
generic bars are always nice, many people on CCF are selling them, silver shot can be risky
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 Posted 11/26/2012  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rounds too. Many of the places that sell numismatic silver as well like provident metals and silvertowne always sell these items.
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To be clear, small increments (like shot) would be good, as if I get a bar id have to hack it up (for use in a chemical application).
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what do you mean @BenByfield
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Bullion basically means bars, ingots or rounds. Provident sells silver shot for industrial uses. If by no numismatic value you mean no mark up above spot, then you will not find that. Bullion and shot both are sold at spot plus a minor mark up for profit, however if you look hard enough on craigslist and such, there are always people desperate for cash, especially during the holidays , that will sell for below spot.
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Im looking for metal silver to use as a chemical. Purity isn't massively important as long as its about 90% or up. Thats why I dont want any numismatic value - its going to be used.

Some will be used for silver nitrate, so I need small pieces, but I also need enough to use either as the metal or enough to hammer into a electrode. Perhaps.
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 Posted 11/26/2012  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakedacc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
okay! I did this for chemistry once, honestly, if you go to your nearest college/university, try to talk to the dean of science, if you need a small amount (1-3 ounces) you might be able to purchase it from the school at cost (my university buys about 100 ounces for around 27$ an ounce) it is only 99% refined but we do carry .999

if its for chemistry this might be a good idea because it comes in little 1x1 inch strips you can cut
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Jake - Good idea - I didnt think about buying it as a chemistry supply - but it makes sense - I wouldve expected a premium! Ill talk to the nearest chemistry department I can find.
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You can also buy a small ceramic crucible and a cheap oxy/Mapp torch from Home Depot. Silver isn't hard to melt.
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Trust me smelting silver is a huge pain in the ole butt. Even if you don't value your time the cost of the gas, crucible, molds, borax, then the refining equip ie a dremmel, stamp and sand paper in my opinion it isn't worth the time. Silver Shot is still a little over priced from the online dealers. You want the cheap silver you got to do the leg work and work the auctions, yard sales, ebay side deals all of these are known for cheap sterling but do take some effort. Good luck I hope your results turn out better then mine. I have personally came to the conclusion that I am going to send my bag of sterling scrap to a refiner and be done with it.
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I've seen some silver wire and other junk silver products on CL every so often, usually for spot.

If all you need is 90%, just find some U.S. junk silver change and if it's to big, smashing it with a hammer should do the trick. I'm sure people would be happier if you used a really ugly scratched up, cleaned, casino'd coin or something that has no numismatic value. (And I bet all the coin collectors out there are crying inside with my horrible tip)
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how about holed or other damaged coins?
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if its for chemical process you'll want to use .99 or .999
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Id rather not use anything of *any* numismatic value - and those 90% silver american junk coins tend not to show up all that much in UK change.

Thanks for the tip jake - I wasnt sure how the purity would affect it.
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I also need enough to use either as the metal or enough to hammer into a electrode. Perhaps.

Ben, if you will be using this to make colloidal silver, please do not use any coins that are 90% silver for this. They also contain copper that you would not want in a medicinal liquid. Either use the .999 coins or the silver sheet material that is used in chem labs.
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