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Blank Planchet - Golden Dollar

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I received this coin yesterday from a vending machine with three other dollar coins, all Millard Filmore and from the Denver mint. After reading online it's quite rare to get one of these. What's it worth? Grade? I'm seeing prices ALL OVER THE PLACE!

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I have never seen or heard of anyone getting a blank planchet of a golden dollar. Hopefully experts will be along with their opinion.
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to the CCF.

Please describe the edge lettering condition ... is anything there?

Also ... if you can ... what does it weigh in grams?

Your photos lead to my initial thought that this is a slug of some sort ... visual evidence for this is the rounded rims with no apparent edge lettering ... the thin rims as viewed from the frontal view and the complete lack of any detail on the coins surfaces.

An accurate weight would be a great help in diagnostics ... it should weigh 8.1 grams if authentic.

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The edge has no lettering. However, in one little spot it looks like there is a defined "1", or either that or an imperfection that looks awfully similar to it.

I do not have a scale of those small amounts. That sucks :(

It looks EXACTLY like the completed ebay auctions of "Type 2 Blank Planchet Sacagawea dollar." And the about.com article on blank presidential coins looks identical as well.

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Made me dig around on the web. If genuine it could be a great find..... apparently these are pretty rare. It looks like the pictures on the web. If it had edge lettering it would really be special.
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Cool find!
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Looks like one to me. Awesome find !
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Sort of off topic, raymo, what part of Oregon are you from? I'm in north Portland. Are there any local graders or authenticators?
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Cool find!
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Nice find, out of a vending machine at that!
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I would tend to think that it is a crafted slug, to fool vending machines.

While the mint isn't infallible, their quality control on modern issues,(not talking nicks and scratches ) is pretty good. I think the bulk of the edge lettering mistakes were due to theft, not lack of quality control. I find it hard to believe that a total blank could make it out the door undetected.
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well we have all seen unstamped planchets in differing stages get out of the mint from time to time so its definitely not something that can't happen. The way allot of these get out is they get stuck in the hopper when emptied to go into the machine and break loose when emptied into bags. These types of planchets have been found in a lot of differing series that the US has put out. I am not an expert in Modern coins so I am not sure this is original but I am just stating it has happened before and I don't see why it couldn't happen again. According to this webpage some have been found with edge lettering and some without http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page39.html . If I am not mistaken the type 1 planchets are ones that haven't went through the edge rolling process and the type 2 are the planchets that have , so if this is real it would be a type 2. Maybe the ones with edge lettering is called a type 3 (I am just talking here as I doubt that is what its called). If this had gone through the edge lettering machine there would be no doubt it was real but I still think its believable but not sure how you would authenticate it short of sending it in to a TPG or expert in errors
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According to this webpage some have been found with edge lettering and some without http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page39.html .


Thanks Bryan foe the link, what a great informational site. Everything you want to know about small dollars.

Despite assertions to the contrary by mint officials , I am not totally convinced that the mint does not let some of these coins " slip " by quality control on purpose as a way of fostering interest from collectors and non collectors in US coinage. Much like software engineers will hide " Easter eggs " in popular software.
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I took it in to coin shop on Hawthorne Blvd in SE Portland, it weighs the exact same as a Presidential dollar and is a genuine blank planchet.
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According to them. They took out a regular presidential coin and weighted them both out to be 8.1 ounces.
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