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My opinion is there is no such thing as a dumb question... and I was a teacher! So here is mine - just making sure my marbles are inside the old cabeza today since I got my meds late. Since the mint closed off selling 14 piece silver proof sets for 2012 at 393,797, according to another post on CCF, then we have a new key coin for the series (not including the SMS 1998 S matte proof). Here are silver proof mintage numbers from the JFK series (googled):
1976 S 4,000,000
1992 S 1,317,579
1993 S 761,353
1994 S 785,329
1995 S 679,985
1996 S 775,021
1997 S 741,678
1998 S 878,792
1998 S Matte Proof 62,000
1999 S 804,565
2000 S 965,421
2001 S 889,697
2002 S 892,229
2003 S 1,125,755
2004 S 1,175,934
2005 S 1,069,679
2006 S 1,054,008
2007 S 875,050
2008 S 763,887
2009 S 694,406
2010 S 585,414
2011 S 556,101
2012 S 443,757 - number based on mintage of
14-piece silver proof sets
and special limited edition
proof sets
Is this right or am I missing something?  edited to update 2012 numbers from special limited edition proof sets Edited by Earle42
01/05/2013 3:16 pm
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Are silver JFK half dollars available without buying a proof set?
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Are the coins issues in the limited edition proof set included?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Not from the mint - only from broken sets found in online auctions.
As far as I know the mint only sells clad rolls or bags, the only way to get silver ones form the mint are to purchase silver proof sets containing them.
2Hondo:
Aha! I knew I was probably missing something. So does anyone know how many of the special mint sets were made/sold? It would be nice to know a total number of the silver proof 2012s.
Edited by Earle42
01/05/2013 2:56 pm
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They can be obtained outside of the proof set only if cracked out and sold separately or slabbed... The 2012 limited edition silver proof set is still on sale and that has a mintage of 50,000 units, so we can add another 50,000 Kennedy's to the final #...
Erik
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks Erik - so we are up to 443,757 - meaning we still have a new key - updated above totals.
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Awesome, thanks Earle42. Good info
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So I would assume that the Roosevelt dime would now be the low mintage key for that silver series? |
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You are correct, the Rosie should have the same final mintage #'s as Kennedy. Which makes them the 2 unique coins for the silver proof sets of 2012  Erik |
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Weren't some silver halfs included by accident in the birth year set? Or was that last year?
Edited by Dawg51999
01/05/2013 6:02 pm
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That is the new "key" Kennedy proof silver half for now. It might just hold the title until the mintage for the 2013s come in. I wouldn't mortgage the house to buy rolls of 2012 silver halves. They'll have a bump this year due to the low mintage, but lower mintages are going to be seen more and more often as the old time collectors go. Most young people that are used to plastic debit and credit have no idea of the diversity of coins that used to exist in everyday change, so they are not aware that these obsolete things can be 'collected,' but lower mintages are the rule not the exception going forward.
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Bizybackson - I see some validity in what you are saying. I know when I was younger not a lot of people I knew even cared about proof coins since a lot of people simply enjoyed collecting what could be had from circulation. Proofs, were considered a thing to be bought and put away for an investment.
As I got older I saw the prices going down from issue price (relatively speaking considering how much value the dollar has lost over the years). Also other threads here have discussed how coin shops may even offer below face value or non-silver proofs. So I guess proofs still are not all that sought after.
But I also keep thinking of how thankful my grandson will be to me when I am in a pine box and he is around in 2063 for the 100th year remembrance of JFKs assassination. I have to wonder if there won't be an upsurge in interest in the series then. Some of the silver proofs may be the "new" 1909 VDBS for him?
Anyone got a newspaper from 2063?
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I never really understand attributing the term "key" to something that is not hard to come by. This is the kind of collector mentality that allows dealers to rig the market. Think about it. If there were 4 million 1886 Morgan dollar proofs in PR69DCAM- would that make them valuable? This is not a criticism of the poster or his question- or the cool bit of evaluation- believe me, I dig it- it's just the term "key". Edited by cc99999
01/05/2013 11:09 pm
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I think "Key" is applicable. All things being equal, there really are no dates that are hard to find....other than the 82 and 83. The mintages for those years may be high but finding higher grade coins is a challenge.
My point is that if there are no really hard dates to get; then the date with the lowest mintage becomes the "Key". No one said a "key" had to be ultra hard to find.
After all the 09S-vdb is super easy to get, as is the 16D Merc.
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Here's the definition of Key Coin from the CCF Numismatic Glossary: Quote:Key Coin The major, or most important, coin in a particular series. The "key" coin is usually the lowest-mintage coin and/or the most expensive coin in a particular set. The 1916-D dime, for instance, is usually considered the key coin of the Mercury dime series. It is the lowest mintage coin of the set and the most expensive (in most grades). The 1919-D dime is the "condition rarity key" of the Mercury dime series, as it is the most expensive coin in top condition. |
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but if everyone who collects a particular series can have the coin- how is it the key one? there are not more than 4 point whatever million kennedy silver proof collectors out there.
the key will be how much more dealers will charge you for the coin because collectors believe they are extra valuable.
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