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Wow, Never seen anything like that, and it appears to be raised. I am clueless on what the cause is for that!
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Without a doubt this is PMD. This one of the most common 1858 reverse dies. I catalogued it as RB2 in my books. I have seen many coins from both earlier and later die states without such marks. Maybe the work of a soldering iron?
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Rest in Peace
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tfred...looks like the irregularity is about half as high as the date itself..correct...? 
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Looks like someone took a nail and scored the coin. 
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 United States
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I am no pro and this is just a guess but it looks like metal tooling to me.I would have to say that it is PMD but I am not sure how it was done. Jphn1 
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It has to be PMD and Bosox just gave you the reason why. He WROTE the book on/with all the obverse and reverse working dies for 1858. He has coins made by the same working die ... examples from both before and after this struck coin (by the basis of other markers) and there are no such marks on those (or other) coins. If this was not on the working die and not on the planchet (it can't be by looking at the coin), then it has to be PMD. I'm curious to know if there are groves (below field level) between the "lines" or is "between the lines" the same level as the rest of the field?
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Is there any way something like this could have happened at the mint? Nope.  with PMD
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 Canada
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A V-shaped jewelers engraving tool, or a very sharp chisel would do that. Basically, you are looking at a cut channel, with the metal being displaced like levees on either side of the cut, actually being raised above fields.
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I would imagine that the next trick that the guy with the tool would play would be to change the "E" to different vowel at the end of the alphabet to make the "Cent" a different word that we've all seen from time to time.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you very much guys. Your expertise is greatly appreciated. I'm satisfied with the verdict of PMD. Please have a look at my 1888 that I just posted. Thanks. :)
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